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Fedora: Open-source repository for long-term digital preservation
- fodmap 10mo agoTo avoid misunderstandings, this repository is about a project at Cornell University named the Flexible Extensible Digital Object Repository Architecture (FEDORA), not a Red Hat one.
- macintux 10mo agoAnd predates Fedora by about 6 years.
- cevn 10mo agoI was ready to be mad in the comments, now I'm mad but in the other direction.
- stronglikedan 10mo agoDon't be mad, they are clearly distinct — one is FEDORA and the other is Fedora!
- ameliaquining 10mo agoIt seems that in 2003 (when Fedora Linux first launched) this project was pretty obscure and early-stage, so it's hard to blame Red Hat for not having known about it then. This kind of thing just happens sometimes.
- j45 10mo agoFedora and Red Hat aren't super common or easily accessible anymore either, since they've made their choice as they're entitled to move towards enterprise.
- samtheDamned 10mo agoI feel like fedora is pretty accessible at this point. The main speedbump is enabling non-free repos but if you're helping someone install linux for the first time you just tell them to check that box during setup.
- phkahler 10mo agoRight or wrong, who owns the trademark?
- tsak 10mo agoThe hat! > The term fedora was in use as early as 1891. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora#History)
- fodmap 10mo agoBoth. '...all parties settled on a co-existence agreement that stated that the Cornell-UVA project could use the name when clearly associated with open source software for digital object repository systems and that Red Hat could use the name when it was clearly associated with open source computer operating systems.' https://fedorarepository.org/about/our-history/ https://fedorarepository.org/about/our-history/
- notpushkin 10mo ago> The transferable agreement stipulated that each project must display the following text on their web site: [...] Looks like Cornell-UVA satisfied this by placing it on their about page. Red Hat on the other hand hid it on a dedicated legalese page nobody will read: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/ https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/ Not a good look IMO.
- Andrex 10mo agoDue to their comparative popularity, it makes complete sense to me. You don't have people in HN comments for a new Fedora release going "Wait is this about the Digital Access Project?" What does "not a good look" even mean in this context? Getting tired of this phrase's overuse tbh. "Think of the optics" fell into disuse and I can't wait for this one to join it.
- supercheetah 10mo agoRed Hat is the bigger party here. Their minimization of this issue seems a little like bullying.
- RickJWagner 10mo agoThanks for that explanation. Totally threw me for a minute.
- jasoneckert 10mo agoIt took me far too long to figure this out from their site, but when I did, the project looked far less interesting. For a while there, I thought the "been in existence for 20+ years and our users represent an engaged, supportive and invested global community of users focused on sustainability and growth" was the Fedora Project extending their expertise in file organization and distribution to other use cases. But on the bright side, I now have a link I can use to confuse my students with (to keep them out of their comfort zone and promote deep research).
- actionfromafar 10mo agoAnd they have Fedora Slack(ware)!
- iNate2000 10mo agoWait - I saw a link to a Slack chat workspace. Do they have something for Slackware Linux as well?
- actionfromafar 10mo agoNo, sorry it was that I meant. Also confusing when you are primed to think RedHat -> Fedora -> Slackware :)
- j45 10mo agoDidn't think about the Linux distro at all because the software was clearly described as otherwise.
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- zoobab 10mo agoFTP was better.
- Dwedit 10mo agoFTP is great for the hackers who want to sniff cleartext user passwords over insecure public wifi.
- economistbob 10mo agoFTPs used to have anonymous logins unless one was on a LAN, so sniffing passwords was not very relevant.
- mason_mpls 10mo agoSFTP
- cramcgrab 10mo agoWow. Java 11. Looks like a great project for an update. Anybody know where we can get a group of CS students to update the code with a modern toolset? Used to be MIT, Clarkson, Cornell, Berkeley, RIT, etc cranked this stuff out.
- jjice 10mo agoTotal tangent from the OP, but neat to see RIT listed here (among some excellent universities)! What kind of things has RIT done like this? Just a curious alum.
- cramcgrab 10mo agoThey were big in software for the one laptop per child project: https://www.rit.edu/news/rit-class-develops-applications-support-one-laptop-child-initiative https://www.rit.edu/news/rit-class-develops-applications-sup... And, while not open source, built this: https://dirsig.cis.rit.edu/ https://dirsig.cis.rit.edu/ Also, I remember some kind of early realtime music accompaniment software, the guy played trumpet and the software played realtime accompaniment. Also, MIT built X11, which later turned into a bureaucratic exercise instead of software project. Berkeley, well BSD Unix. Early web projects came out of Michigan, like gopher. Not much lately though.
- billdueber 10mo agoGopher came out of the U of Minnesota. Their teams are the “Golden Gophers.”
- cramcgrab 10mo agoAah yes, that’s right
- nticompass 10mo agoHello fellow RIT alum! :-D
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- esseph 10mo agoIt's not RH/IBM, but you wouldn't know that because you didn't read anything about it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46244011 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46244011 From the website; Name History In 1997 a research project at Cornell University was named the Flexible Extensible Digital Object Repository Architecture (FEDORA). In 1998, Payette and Lagoze published an article about their work referencing Fedora, and later that year software with the same name was released to the public.
- jbstack 10mo agoWrong Fedora
- moron4hire 10mo agoDo they have a separate website for a git repo, e.g. Github? Between me reading the page in bed this morning and then driving to work, the website seems to have gone down.
- Dwedit 10mo agoTheir Github is https://github.com/fcrepo/fcrepo https://github.com/fcrepo/fcrepo
- moron4hire 10mo agoThank you. Have a specific project at work that it might be relevant towards.
- Kwpolska 10mo agoWere they so unoriginal that they had to steal the "fc" abbreviation from the Linux distro as well? (In the Linux distro, it comes from the original name "Fedora Core"; the abbreviation is most visible in package versions.)
- macintux 10mo agoFEDORA is years older than Fedora.
- linhns 10mo agoHow to not name your project, exhibit 1
- macintux 10mo agoIt's older than Fedora Linux.
- modzu 10mo agoif your little company was still named Google would you keep it? they just seem petty (the ™ on their logo lol)
- derleyici 10mo agoNothing petty about it: https://www.ridetenet.com/pages/a-letter-from-nolan https://www.ridetenet.com/pages/a-letter-from-nolan
- unsungNovelty 10mo agoWow! Like Christopher Nolan more now!
- sitta 10mo agoPerhaps also of interest is the storage format that Fedora 6/7 uses. https://ocfl.io/ https://ocfl.io/
- ThinkingGuy 10mo agoAre there any images (or actual demos) of the actual user interface? Every variant of search for "Fedora repository screen shot" just brings back instructions for taking a desktop screen shot on the Fedora operating system.
- Yehoshaphat 10mo agoIt is interesting to me that I came across this project earlier this week (MLS student, procrastinating via browsing Awesome-Lists), and now it's here on YN. Maybe some stoner can vibe-rebase this with Rust.
- NedF 10mo ago[dead]