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Apparently fish aren't animals. :)
by jedberg 11mo ago
Apparently fish aren't animals. :)
- iknowstuff 11mo agoRight? I think it’s a christian thing. There’s gotta be something about eating fish being okay in their bible because the amount of times I heard “fish aren’t meat”
- embedding-shape 11mo agoI think it's just a general apathy in the general population about knowing the difference. "Meat" is pig, cow, horse, rabbit, elephant or whatever, "fish" is fish meat. At a restaurant you could ask if a salad has any meat, they say no, and when it arrives, it has tiny pieces of bacon because "oh but that's almost nothing, certainly not \"meat\"".
- iknowstuff 11mo agoWhaaaat! definitely not in the US haha, at last not the the major cities I guess.
- drekipus 11mo agoChristians are allowed to eat all food. Only Christ is what saves. (Mark 7:19) But the fish / meat / etc is a tradition thing, so it comes from the culture surrounding the Christian, and probably more relating to Jewish history more than anything
- dash2 11mo agoI was told by my teacher as a kid that traditional Catholics used to believe that if you didn't eat fish on Fridays, you'd go to Hell. I wonder if that was true?
- mbg721 11mo agoYou don't have to eat fish, you just have to avoid poultry and red meat. The intent was sacrifice as penance for sins. And in the US and some other countries, it's really only mentioned during Lent (Ash Wednesday to the day before Easter); the rest of the year, it's encouraged to do that or some other form of penance, but everyone ignores it.
- saubeidl 11mo agoIt's some good ol' catholic rules bending. During lent, you weren't supposed to eat meat as part of your fast. However, not eating meat is... not as enjoyable as eating meat, so they basically declared that fish doesn't count as meat so they could eat it without breaking the fast. For similar reasons, they also declared beavers to be fish later on.
- krige 11mo agoExcept that's not how it happened. Lent was someting that took several centuries to occur in any form, and what was allowed and what was prohibited varied greatly for long after. Fish and shellfish from the start were allowed more often than things like butter, oil, or wine.
- shmeeed 11mo agoWhere I'm from, they just hide the meat in dumplings to eat on Fridays. No way God could ever see through that ruse!
- jh00ker 11mo ago"The term [meat] is sometimes used in a more restrictive sense to mean the flesh of mammalian species (pigs, cattle, sheep, goats, etc.) raised and prepared for human consumption, to the exclusion of fish, other seafood, insects, poultry, or other animals." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat#Etymology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat#Etymology
- littlestymaar 11mo agoFun fact: in various contexts and languages, rabbits are sometimes considered poultry despite being mammals.
- iknowstuff 11mo agoah of course, everybody knows the reptile chicken is not meat
- OrangeMusic 11mo agoFrance is waaaaay less religious than the US.
- littlestymaar 11mo agoEven with 5 “a” it's still an understatement.
- BrandoElFollito 11mo agoBut it is getting on track. Just not with the previous religion.
- amelius 11mo agoMaybe they did that because the Intermarche makes more on fish than on meat.
- bigbaguette 11mo agoIntermarché owns a massive fleet of fishing boats. That could explain this.
- barrell 11mo agoEveryone keeps making religious connections, but it’s worth pointing out linguistically most countries in Europe (and the world) refer to red meat, poultry, and seafood as entirely separate. Meat often just refers to red meat. English is in the minority to bucket them all under “meat”
- Doxin 11mo agoNot to mention that loads of people detour through pescetarianism on their way to vegetarianism. But even if you stop at pescetarianism that's still a wild improvement on plenty of metrics over eating other meats. There seems to be this pressure to either go fully vegetarian or it doesn't count, which is obviously total nonsense.
- latexr 11mo ago> There seems to be this pressure to either go fully vegetarian or it doesn't count, which is obviously total nonsense. Hard agree. It’s counterproductive to have that view, even, and it’s why many people give up on vegetarianism (“I wasn’t able to go all in cold turkey, so it isn’t for me and I’ll revert completely”).
- shmeeed 11mo agoYup, a friend's wife used to be a vegetarian. The occasional chicken for dinner never put a dent in that self-assessment.
- xeromal 11mo agoProbably because flesh fell out of fashion?
- nomercy400 11mo agoFrom a story point or view it makes sense. Why try to please those not present at Christmas table. If the table was filled with carrots as guests, do you think the rabbits would be invited? The original wolf would. I know, I know, it is about bettering yourself.
- wzdd 11mo agoThe wolf wasn't trying to be vegetarian, he was trying to not have the forest creatures run away from him. He achieved his goal by not eating them.