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> Keep in mind the UK already arrests and imprisons vast numbers of people for speech offences. Vast? No, they really don't.

oncallthrow 10mo ago
Is tens of thousands vast enough for you?
elephant81 10mo ago
How would you argue that more than one arrest is fair in a modern democracy? Can you even point to an arrest where it passes the pub test?
cortic 10mo ago
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- iLoveOncall 10mo ago
  > The UK is actually a scary place right now, if you are paying attention.. It has been the most authoritarian country in the West for decades already, this is nothing new. British people are the most apathetic people in the world, so it's really easy to abuse them.
  - cortic 10mo ago
    >the most authoritarian country in the West Australia and the US are more authoritarian in specific areas e.g. censorship and taxation respectively.. but overall, yes, the UK is worse. >British people are the most apathetic I'm not sure that's fair, our culture looks apathetic from abroad, but like other countries we care deeply about what our media tell us to care about.
    - iLoveOncall 10mo ago
      > our culture looks apathetic from abroad I live in the UK, and have lived in multiple other western countries before. British people absolutely ARE apathetic.
- iamacyborg 10mo ago
  > 12,000 arrests per year Arrested is not the same thing as being charged. The latter is what would lead to a trial. > So they are currently trying to get rid of juries, which they will do Huh > a leader that has styled himself as a more extreme Nigel Farage I’m sorry, what? > The UK is actually a scary place right now It is?
  - cortic 10mo ago
    >Huh https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5lxg2l0lqo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5lxg2l0lqo >I’m sorry, what? Take the online protection act for an example, Nigel Farage though it went too far, Keir Starmer wanted to include a ban on VPNs... >it is? If you have been paying attention, yes.
  - everfrustrated 10mo ago
    >Arrested is not the same thing as being charged. The latter is what would lead to a trial. Often the entire point of the arrest is to get restrictive and onerous bail conditions imposed on people. Frequently restricting their speech on social media by threat of imprisonment for violating their bail conditions. That the charges are later dropped isn't the point.
  - tick_tock_tick 10mo ago
    Are you just ignorant or trying to antagonize. What's the point of posting worthless non rebuttals to easily provable facts.
- phatfish 10mo ago
  It's only scary to Americans (maybe reaching hard because of Trump?) and those who live off Twitter and Daily Mail headlines. For the rest us it's marginally better than when the crazies where screwing us over with Brexit.

oncallthrow 10mo ago

Is tens of thousands vast enough for you?

elephant81 10mo ago

How would you argue that more than one arrest is fair in a modern democracy? Can you even point to an arrest where it passes the pub test?

cortic 10mo ago

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iLoveOncall 10mo ago
> The UK is actually a scary place right now, if you are paying attention.. It has been the most authoritarian country in the West for decades already, this is nothing new. British people are the most apathetic people in the world, so it's really easy to abuse them.
- cortic 10mo ago
  >the most authoritarian country in the West Australia and the US are more authoritarian in specific areas e.g. censorship and taxation respectively.. but overall, yes, the UK is worse. >British people are the most apathetic I'm not sure that's fair, our culture looks apathetic from abroad, but like other countries we care deeply about what our media tell us to care about.
  - iLoveOncall 10mo ago
    > our culture looks apathetic from abroad I live in the UK, and have lived in multiple other western countries before. British people absolutely ARE apathetic.
iamacyborg 10mo ago
> 12,000 arrests per year Arrested is not the same thing as being charged. The latter is what would lead to a trial. > So they are currently trying to get rid of juries, which they will do Huh > a leader that has styled himself as a more extreme Nigel Farage I’m sorry, what? > The UK is actually a scary place right now It is?
- cortic 10mo ago
  >Huh https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5lxg2l0lqo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5lxg2l0lqo >I’m sorry, what? Take the online protection act for an example, Nigel Farage though it went too far, Keir Starmer wanted to include a ban on VPNs... >it is? If you have been paying attention, yes.
- everfrustrated 10mo ago
  >Arrested is not the same thing as being charged. The latter is what would lead to a trial. Often the entire point of the arrest is to get restrictive and onerous bail conditions imposed on people. Frequently restricting their speech on social media by threat of imprisonment for violating their bail conditions. That the charges are later dropped isn't the point.
- tick_tock_tick 10mo ago
  Are you just ignorant or trying to antagonize. What's the point of posting worthless non rebuttals to easily provable facts.
phatfish 10mo ago
It's only scary to Americans (maybe reaching hard because of Trump?) and those who live off Twitter and Daily Mail headlines. For the rest us it's marginally better than when the crazies where screwing us over with Brexit.