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Is there a list of Geekbench performance metrics for the various Graviton CPUs? I need a reference point so I can compare it to Intel/AMD and Apple's ARM cpus.

by bhouston 11mo ago

Is there a list of Geekbench performance metrics for the various Graviton CPUs? I need a reference point so I can compare it to Intel/AMD and Apple's ARM cpus. Otherwise it is buzzwords and superlatives. I need numbers so I can understand.

sciurus 11mo ago
https://instances.vantage.sh/ https://instances.vantage.sh/ shows coremark scores for each EC2 instance type.
- dylan604 11mo ago
  It always strikes me that the best place of information for a cloud provider is not from that provider but a third party website. This is not a good comment for the cloud provider.
  - coredog64 11mo ago
    Funny story: When I was at AWS, I found that the easiest way automate instance data collection was by using the Vantage website code (it's on GitHub). The cobbler's children have no shoes.
    - StratusBen 11mo ago
      Founder of Vantage here and former AWS employee. We actually recently made the decision to staff someone full time on the site just to maintain it for the community. Even the JSON file for the site gets hit hundreds of thousands of times per day...feels like it's become kind of the de-facto source of truth in the community for where to get reliable AWS pricing information and I believe its powering a pretty remarkable amount of downstream applications with how much usage its getting. We acquired the site almost 5 years ago and want to continue to improve it for the community. If you have any cloud cost management needs, we're also able to help for our main business here: https://www.vantage.sh/ https://www.vantage.sh/ Awesome to see all the comments on it here!
  - LtdJorge 11mo ago
    Thry have to adhere to their marketing words and numbers like "efficiency increase of 99999% in performance per dollar per token per watt per U-235 atom used"
- winrid 11mo ago
  Also, use the ffmpeg fps column to check single threaded score.
llm_nerd 11mo ago
While the 5 variant isn't yet available outside of the preview, you can of course spin a 4 up and run geekbench yourself. Plenty of people have and you can find them in the GB DB. And of course most people spin up their specific workload to see how it compares. Core per core it pales compared to Apple's superlative processors, and falls behind AMD as well. But...that doesn't matter. You buy cloud resources generally for $/perf, and the Graviton's are far and away ahead on that metric.
- winrid 11mo ago
  Not true at all. Single thread CPU scores for Graviton2 are about half that of Intel, while only being about 20% cheaper at best.
  - llm_nerd 11mo ago
    Groan. Yes, absolutely true. While I know this thread will turn into some noisy whack-a-mole bit of nonsense, an easy comparison is the c8g.2xlarge vs the c8i.2xlarge. The former is Graviton 4 vs Granite Rapids in the latter. Otherwise both 16GB, 15Gbps networking, and both are compute optimized, 8 vCPU machines. Performance is very similar. Indeed, since you herald the ffmpeg result elsewhere the Graviton machine beats the Intel device by 16%. And the Graviton is 17% cheaper. Like, this is a ridiculous canard to even go down. Over half of AWS' new machines are Graviton based, but per your rhetoric they're actually uncompetitive. So I guess no one is using them? Wow, silly Amazon.
    - electroly 11mo ago
      The latter is a 4-core machine with 8 HyperThreads. This doesn't actually matter to your price-performance metric but is worth mentioning because it's the reason why the Intel part performs so comparatively poorly. They're fast chips, they're just wildly uneconomical. If you wanted to compare equal core counts (c8i.4xlarge vs. c8g.2xlarge), then the Intel instance type wins on performance but the Graviton is 58% cheaper.
    - winrid 11mo ago

sciurus 11mo ago

https://instances.vantage.sh/ https://instances.vantage.sh/ shows coremark scores for each EC2 instance type.

dylan604 11mo ago
It always strikes me that the best place of information for a cloud provider is not from that provider but a third party website. This is not a good comment for the cloud provider.
- coredog64 11mo ago
  Funny story: When I was at AWS, I found that the easiest way automate instance data collection was by using the Vantage website code (it's on GitHub). The cobbler's children have no shoes.
  - StratusBen 11mo ago
    Founder of Vantage here and former AWS employee. We actually recently made the decision to staff someone full time on the site just to maintain it for the community. Even the JSON file for the site gets hit hundreds of thousands of times per day...feels like it's become kind of the de-facto source of truth in the community for where to get reliable AWS pricing information and I believe its powering a pretty remarkable amount of downstream applications with how much usage its getting. We acquired the site almost 5 years ago and want to continue to improve it for the community. If you have any cloud cost management needs, we're also able to help for our main business here: https://www.vantage.sh/ https://www.vantage.sh/ Awesome to see all the comments on it here!
- LtdJorge 11mo ago
  Thry have to adhere to their marketing words and numbers like "efficiency increase of 99999% in performance per dollar per token per watt per U-235 atom used"
winrid 11mo ago
Also, use the ffmpeg fps column to check single threaded score.

llm_nerd 11mo ago

While the 5 variant isn't yet available outside of the preview, you can of course spin a 4 up and run geekbench yourself. Plenty of people have and you can find them in the GB DB. And of course most people spin up their specific workload to see how it compares. Core per core it pales compared to Apple's superlative processors, and falls behind AMD as well. But...that doesn't matter. You buy cloud resources generally for $/perf, and the Graviton's are far and away ahead on that metric.

winrid 11mo ago
Not true at all. Single thread CPU scores for Graviton2 are about half that of Intel, while only being about 20% cheaper at best.
- llm_nerd 11mo ago
  Groan. Yes, absolutely true. While I know this thread will turn into some noisy whack-a-mole bit of nonsense, an easy comparison is the c8g.2xlarge vs the c8i.2xlarge. The former is Graviton 4 vs Granite Rapids in the latter. Otherwise both 16GB, 15Gbps networking, and both are compute optimized, 8 vCPU machines. Performance is very similar. Indeed, since you herald the ffmpeg result elsewhere the Graviton machine beats the Intel device by 16%. And the Graviton is 17% cheaper. Like, this is a ridiculous canard to even go down. Over half of AWS' new machines are Graviton based, but per your rhetoric they're actually uncompetitive. So I guess no one is using them? Wow, silly Amazon.
  - electroly 11mo ago
    The latter is a 4-core machine with 8 HyperThreads. This doesn't actually matter to your price-performance metric but is worth mentioning because it's the reason why the Intel part performs so comparatively poorly. They're fast chips, they're just wildly uneconomical. If you wanted to compare equal core counts (c8i.4xlarge vs. c8g.2xlarge), then the Intel instance type wins on performance but the Graviton is 58% cheaper.
  - winrid 11mo ago