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This is insane. The US is simply not aligned with Europe. This makes a lot of sense. Europe is increasingly illiberal and incompatible with American understandi
by anon291 11mo ago
This is insane. The US is simply not aligned with Europe. This makes a lot of sense. Europe is increasingly illiberal and incompatible with American understandings of freedoms. What Europe perceives to be an 'alliance' is simply treating Europe the way the US treats every other country.
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 11mo agoAmerica is increasingly incompatible with my American understanding of freedom
- disgruntledphd2 11mo ago> Europe is increasingly illiberal and incompatible with American understandings of freedoms. Just to be clear, what freedoms are you talking about here? And which parts of Europe?
- barbacoa 11mo agoMany Americans see Europe's DSA as a framework to allow the implemention of China style state censorship system.
- alephnerd 11mo agoWe are fine operating under highly regulated censorship laws, as American companies operating under India's IT Acts has show. We are against the DSA because it is a de facto non-trade barrier to American services exports becuase of it's tax implications. And it's doesn't matter that Trump is in office - a Harris administration would have played hardball against the EU as well, as was seen with the Biden admin perusing lawfare and lobbying to make an example out of Canada for their attempt at a digital services tax. It's the same reason the Obama admin lobbied hard for the TPP to not include a digital services tax and harmonize with American IP law.
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- barbacoa 11mo agoRussia, China, Brazil, India -- all have similar censorship systems but Americans don't find it as troubling because those countries aren't part of the same shared cultural identity known as "The West".
- alephnerd 11mo agoNope. It's because we don't have to pay a digital service tax in any of those countries (except in Russia, where American companies no longer operate due to sanctions considerations). And it's always been about DST [0][1]. No one in the policy space who is able to reach a position to affect power gives a s### about ideology unless it is a deeply personal issue for that person, and for most policymakers (who are overwhelmingly non-technical in my experience), digital free speech absolutism just isn't something they care about at a personal level. [0] - https://www.ey.com/en_gl/insights/tax/how-taxation-of-digital-services-is-again-a-concern-for-businesses https://www.ey.com/en_gl/insights/tax/how-taxation-of-digita... [1] - https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/tax/newsletters/tax-policy-bulletin/assets/pwc-state-of-play-of-dsts-and-other-similar-measures.pdf https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/tax/newsletters/tax-policy-bulleti...
- disgruntledphd2 11mo ago> Nope. It's because we don't have to pay a digital service tax in any of those countries (except in Russia, where American companies no longer operate due to sanctions considerations). And it's always been about DST [0][1]. Then your government should pass BEPS Pillar 1, so that this doesn't happen. You can't have your cake and eat it.
- alephnerd 11mo agoWhy? BEPS Pillar 1 failed at being a DST because it's fairly easily to evade it and it's definitions are fairly permissive.
- anon291 11mo agoBlasphemy laws mainly.