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The US is allied with Russia, and doesn't even bother to hide it anymore. Been saying this since Agent Orange got elected
by geldedus 10mo ago
The US is allied with Russia, and doesn't even bother to hide it anymore.
Been saying this since Agent Orange got elected
- alephnerd 10mo agoThe US is aligned with the US. We don't have significant cultural ties with Europe on either the DNC or the GOP side anymore. The pivot to Asia began under Obama 16 years ago. Russia simply isn't viewed as a threat worth expending resources on given that China is across the Pacific. And the era of European born-and-raised foreign policy advisors like Kissinger, Albright, or Brzezinski is over. Most Americans in the 2020s either never had or lost close blood ties to Europe, so the sympathy that allowed Atlanticism to form instead of the more heavy-handed approach used in Asia doesn't exist anymore. A lot of Europeans (from policymakers all the way down to citizens) really overestimate how Americans view ties with Europe. We have stronger soft power relations with Asia or Latin America than we do with Europe now. If European nations like France, Germany, or the UK shift right, then when the Dems return to power they would also be cold-to-hostile to Europe.
- whattheheckheck 10mo agoDemocrats aren't gaining power again. It's either populist knife fighting social democrats or Trump again
- DaSHacka 10mo agoBelieve me, I wish that were true, but Trump's approval rating is in the low 40's right now. He's also obviously not making it to the next election, and JD Vance doesn't have nearly the same pull or unifying ability. I think it's much more likely the right wing splits into subfactions over the matter of Israel than having another red sweep like we saw this past election. It looks like dems are slowly pulling their heads out of their assess too, so there's a decent chance they'll be more unified come election night.
- aksss 10mo agoA reduction in appetite to fund European social programs under our security umbrella is not the same as being "allied" with Russia. They're big boys and girls and coming on a hundred years after their disastrous warring, it's about time their federated economy step in/up. Can the alliance not survive without our patronage?
- yks 10mo ago1. It's not like America didn't benefit from the arrangement. 2. While it's fun to kill geese laying golden eggs, the question Americans should really ask is what awaits them on the other side of their actions, and whether the upcoming arrangement is really going to benefit them more.
- anon291 10mo agoThis is insane. The US is simply not aligned with Europe. This makes a lot of sense. Europe is increasingly illiberal and incompatible with American understandings of freedoms. What Europe perceives to be an 'alliance' is simply treating Europe the way the US treats every other country.
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 10mo agoAmerica is increasingly incompatible with my American understanding of freedom
- disgruntledphd2 10mo ago> Europe is increasingly illiberal and incompatible with American understandings of freedoms. Just to be clear, what freedoms are you talking about here? And which parts of Europe?
- barbacoa 10mo agoMany Americans see Europe's DSA as a framework to allow the implemention of China style state censorship system.
- alephnerd 10mo agoWe are fine operating under highly regulated censorship laws, as American companies operating under India's IT Acts has show. We are against the DSA because it is a de facto non-trade barrier to American services exports becuase of it's tax implications. And it's doesn't matter that Trump is in office - a Harris administration would have played hardball against the EU as well, as was seen with the Biden admin perusing lawfare and lobbying to make an example out of Canada for their attempt at a digital services tax. It's the same reason the Obama admin lobbied hard for the TPP to not include a digital services tax and harmonize with American IP law.
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