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Nice essay but when I read this > But we don’t go to baseball games, spelling bees, and Taylor Swift concerts for the speed of the balls, the accuracy of the s

Nice essay but when I read this > But we don’t go to baseball games, spelling bees, and Taylor Swift concerts for the speed of the balls, the accuracy of the spelling, or the pureness of the pitch. We go because we care about humans doing those things. My first thought was does anyone want to _watch_ me programming?

skybrian 10mo ago
No, but open source projects will be somewhat more willing to review your pull request than one that's computer-generated.
Fwirt 10mo ago
No, but watching a novelist at work is boring, and yet people like books that are written by humans because they speak to the condition of the human who wrote it. Let us not forget the old saw from SICP, “Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute.” I feel a number of people in the industry today fail to live by that maxim.
- drivebyhooting 10mo ago
  That old saw is patently false.
  - paulryanrogers 10mo ago
    Why? It suggests to me, having encountered it for the first time, that programs must be readable to remain useful. Otherwise they'll be increasingly difficult to execute.
    - drivebyhooting 10mo ago
      Maybe difficult to change but they can still serve their purpose. It’s patently false in that code gets executed much more than it is read by humans.
      - jimbokun 10mo ago
        Code that can’t be easily modified is all but useless.
  - deleted 10mo ago
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hansvm 10mo ago
A number of people make money letting people watch them code.
awesome_dude 10mo ago
I mean, I like to watch Gordon Ramsey... not cook, but have very strong discussions with those that dare to fail his standards...
1659447091 10mo ago
I vaguely remember a site where you could watch random people live streaming their programming environment, but I think twitch ate it, or maybe it was twitch -- not sure, but was interesting [added] It was livecoding.tv - circa 2015 https://hackupstate.medium.com/road-to-code-livecoding-tv-e70b65c62aae https://hackupstate.medium.com/road-to-code-livecoding-tv-e7...
jimbokun 10mo ago
Better start working on your fastball.

skybrian 10mo ago

No, but open source projects will be somewhat more willing to review your pull request than one that's computer-generated.

Fwirt 10mo ago

No, but watching a novelist at work is boring, and yet people like books that are written by humans because they speak to the condition of the human who wrote it. Let us not forget the old saw from SICP, “Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute.” I feel a number of people in the industry today fail to live by that maxim.

drivebyhooting 10mo ago
That old saw is patently false.
- paulryanrogers 10mo ago
  Why? It suggests to me, having encountered it for the first time, that programs must be readable to remain useful. Otherwise they'll be increasingly difficult to execute.
  - drivebyhooting 10mo ago
    Maybe difficult to change but they can still serve their purpose. It’s patently false in that code gets executed much more than it is read by humans.
    - jimbokun 10mo ago
      Code that can’t be easily modified is all but useless.
- deleted 10mo ago
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hansvm 10mo ago

A number of people make money letting people watch them code.

awesome_dude 10mo ago

I mean, I like to watch Gordon Ramsey... not cook, but have very strong discussions with those that dare to fail his standards...

1659447091 10mo ago

I vaguely remember a site where you could watch random people live streaming their programming environment, but I think twitch ate it, or maybe it was twitch -- not sure, but was interesting [added] It was livecoding.tv - circa 2015 https://hackupstate.medium.com/road-to-code-livecoding-tv-e70b65c62aae https://hackupstate.medium.com/road-to-code-livecoding-tv-e7...

jimbokun 10mo ago

Better start working on your fastball.