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> The form will be mandatory for men and voluntary for women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are

> The form will be mandatory for men and voluntary for women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal

JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
One, I'm not sure what American founding ideals have to do with Germany. Two, Germany, like most countries and frankly human populations, has a male surplus in its fighting-age population [1]. This is why, historically, large socities tended to wage war with men first. (Even those that e.g. held elite units in reserve, which undermines the usual biological argument.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#/media/File:Germany_Population_Pyramid_2024.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#/media...
- throw310822 11mo ago
  The male surplus is a few tens of thousands, way to small to make up an army; and no, that is not the reason why men and not women go to war.
  - JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
    > make surplus is a few tens of thousands, way to small to make up an army ...why would you populate your army solely with the surplus? The point is you have a buffer that you can burn without immediately impacting your demographics for the long term. > that is not the reason why men and not women go to war It's a serious theory [1]. (It's more correct to say the surplus and it share a common cause.) [1] https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-319-19650-3_931 https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-319-19650-3_931
  - carlosjobim 11mo ago
    The reason for war has always been to kill off young men, since they are disposable fertility wise and an internal threat to current holders of power. This has been the case since the stone age and will be the case until the end of time.
    - guenthert 11mo ago
      That was the topic of T.H.E.M. by G.C. Edmonson (or so I remember -- I read the translation "Die A.N.D.E.R.E.N." many years ago). Made for a good story, reality is a bit more complex methinks. There's after all a lot of money to be made with war.
      - carlosjobim 11mo ago
        Money is nothing but a representation of power. If it was about money itself, rulers could just print limitless amounts (which they have tried a number of times).
        IAmBroom 11mo ago
        You really don't understand a lot of things you are talking about.
- throwawaypath 11mo ago
  >has a male surplus in its fighting-age population The "male surplus fighting-age population" in Germany will flee to the next European host or back to the MENA country they fled from if conscription begins.
crooked-v 11mo ago
Registration is compulsory, but actual military service is voluntary (for now). In other words, it's functionally the same as Selective Service forms in the US.
qball 11mo ago
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

> The form will be mandatory for men and voluntary for women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal

JumpCrisscross 11mo ago

One, I'm not sure what American founding ideals have to do with Germany. Two, Germany, like most countries and frankly human populations, has a male surplus in its fighting-age population [1]. This is why, historically, large socities tended to wage war with men first. (Even those that e.g. held elite units in reserve, which undermines the usual biological argument.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#/media/File:Germany_Population_Pyramid_2024.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#/media...

throw310822 11mo ago
The male surplus is a few tens of thousands, way to small to make up an army; and no, that is not the reason why men and not women go to war.
- JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
  > make surplus is a few tens of thousands, way to small to make up an army ...why would you populate your army solely with the surplus? The point is you have a buffer that you can burn without immediately impacting your demographics for the long term. > that is not the reason why men and not women go to war It's a serious theory [1]. (It's more correct to say the surplus and it share a common cause.) [1] https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-319-19650-3_931 https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-319-19650-3_931
- carlosjobim 11mo ago
  The reason for war has always been to kill off young men, since they are disposable fertility wise and an internal threat to current holders of power. This has been the case since the stone age and will be the case until the end of time.
  - guenthert 11mo ago
    That was the topic of T.H.E.M. by G.C. Edmonson (or so I remember -- I read the translation "Die A.N.D.E.R.E.N." many years ago). Made for a good story, reality is a bit more complex methinks. There's after all a lot of money to be made with war.
    - carlosjobim 11mo ago
      Money is nothing but a representation of power. If it was about money itself, rulers could just print limitless amounts (which they have tried a number of times).
      - IAmBroom 11mo ago
        You really don't understand a lot of things you are talking about.
throwawaypath 11mo ago
>has a male surplus in its fighting-age population The "male surplus fighting-age population" in Germany will flee to the next European host or back to the MENA country they fled from if conscription begins.

crooked-v 11mo ago

Registration is compulsory, but actual military service is voluntary (for now). In other words, it's functionally the same as Selective Service forms in the US.

qball 11mo ago

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.