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I love these kinds of sites, since they're indistinguishable from honeypots. Sure, have my license plate and the information that I'm worried about being watche
by habinero 11mo ago
I love these kinds of sites, since they're indistinguishable from honeypots. Sure, have my license plate and the information that I'm worried about being watched.
- Simulacra 11mo agoSounds like social media ;-)
- temptemptemp111 11mo ago[dead]
- RobRivera 11mo agoLmao I got honeypotted in h.s. by one of those 'does your crush like you' astrology sites
- alilikestech 11mo agoLol I actually tried it with my plate, i hope i don't get SWATed
- MangoToupe 11mo agoWho isn't worried about being watched? I am certainly not confident the government can tell their ass from their face, so anyone could be suspect.
- AdmiralAsshat 11mo agoWith no other identifying info, though, what can they do with a license plate number in isolation?
- rogerrogerr 11mo agoExactly - you can collect license plates numbers way easier than this. The best data they can really get is a connection to an IP address.
- CamperBob2 11mo agoSell it to the cops and/or ICE as belonging to "self-identified persons of interest."
- MangoToupe 11mo ago[flagged]
- pests 11mo agoSome states, like Michigan, you can request owner information (including address) by a in-person SOS visit and $15 a plate. I've always thought this should be PII and shouldn't be allowed on reddit, for example, where PII is banned. Post a driver with plate in Michigan and you may have doxxed them.
- antonvs 11mo ago> Some states, like Michigan, you can request owner information (including address) If the car is leased, wouldn’t this just give leasing company details?
- 747fulloftapes 11mo agoNo, because while the leasing company may own the vehicle (known as the title holder) the vehicle will be registered in the lesser's name (known as the registered owner.) In the case of a car purchased with financing like a loan, I believe the purchaser will be both the title and registered owner, but the lender will have a lien on the vehicle until the debt is paid off.
- antonvs 11mo agoAh thanks. Permanent rental it is then. :)
- 747fulloftapes 11mo agoThat, or, establish a trust to own the vehicle and grant yourself permission to use it. It's not exactly trivial to do and costs some money, but it's doable. You can do similar with an LLC, but that gets more complicated with the rules regarding using a "company" vehicle for personal purposes. IANAL Similar things are done for things like cellphone plans, firearm ownership, homes, etc. The only thing I am aware of that you can only do in your own name is register to vote. Almost all of the Michigan voter database can be FOIA'd. It's called the QVF - qualified voter file. Only a few fields in the database (ie, day and month of birth) as well as all voter records for victoms domestic battery are protected by statute.
- ccgreg 11mo agoMost people park at their home and many drive to work. If you have both of those data points, you can identify people.
- mertd 11mo agoThat's not very useful? For homeowners, the real estate transactions are public and majority of white collar people have LinkedIn accounts.
- drnick1 11mo ago> majority of white collar people have LinkedIn accounts. What a time to live in!
- hopelite 11mo agoLinkedIn has always struck me like a kind of contemporary slave management/market place, only one in which pick-mes try to be the best alpha slave they can be. The fact that you are linked in, as in a chain, sure does not help with dispelling my impression.
- jwiz 11mo agoYou're starting with the plate, getting the home, and then you can get the real estate info. Most people don't expect their identity to be discoverable from their driving.
- ragequittah 11mo agoWait really? I feel like this was happening in the 90s. Now every car has a full gps spy system integrated to the point I barely trust that my conversation is private in a modern vehicle. But I guess if you think it's just your car company, Android, Apple, roadside assistance, the local police, and probably the music you're playing that can pin your location you're probably ok.
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- amazingman 11mo agoChecksum?
- dragonwriter 11mo ago> With no other identifying info, though, what can they do with a license plate number in isolation? For typical users not taking extra precautions, visiting a page in a browser is providing additional identifying info, a fact that monetization of the free-as-in-beer web relies heavily upon, but which can be leveraged in other ways, e.g., by a site that draws you in with privacy fears as a technique to get you to submit additional information that can be correlated with it.
- edm0nd 11mo agoYou just work backwards. Here's what I would do working off just a single license plate number w OSINT. I would pivot immediately into license plate databases that have been breached. For example, ParkMobile got popped in 2021 and the db has 20.9M license plates in it. prob have low success rate and iirc its pretty US centric. It has their full name, address, phone, email, all kinda data. If you had paid fancy tools, like Lexis Nexis, you could plug it into there and easily find the owner. There are also plenty of license plate look sites online where it will tell you the VIN and make/model details. Idk, would just take digging and keep spidering out with all new info you find. Would yield a few hits eventually.
- monerozcash 11mo agoSure, and so what? You can look up people on Accurint without license plates. Depending on what kind of account you have, you can just search by a zip code, or a state with no further identifiers. What would be the point of running a website collecting the license plate numbers of random visitors?
- rightbyte 11mo agoPairing IPs to persons?
- monerozcash 11mo agoYou can just get an API which does that and skip the middle steps? Or even skip the API part and just buy that data in bulk. Or just collect it from a variety of freely leaked databases.
- diydsp 11mo agoYou need to think more evil! Lets brainstorm! Theres a parking lot... what are the 10 wealthiest car owners...and the 10 frailest oldest people... or maybe the 20 women aged 19-25 blond under 150 pounds... and when do they get off work tired, drive home each day? What's the most isolated gas station,convenience store they stop at? Ones where few other cars pass by? Who's homes don't show a 2nd car in driveway? Owned by 6'5" 200 pound man? Who frequently visits a karate studio? Or: im a car salesman, in comes a customer, whining abt lowering the price bc Theyre broke... lemme just look up where they eat supper every night! How much time they spend at airports! What school they drop off their kids! Who comes to their house? Nannies? Oh look drug dealers, i can threaten them with blackmail! Sound ridiculous? All the data brings it into focus. A local detective told me theyre focusing on robberies of $ethnicity restaurants bc that group stockpiles cash in their homes... And this is all assuming good info, but when u get creative: ..what if we look for mistakes... hey that annoying $religious neighbor pissed me off with his loud music. His kids car shows up as visiting thr wrong side of town..probably a wrong digit but lets report him anyway!!! Or: Hey lets scan all the wifi dbs for ssids that seem like defaults, then offer them csam-insurance: you pay me $1000 cash rn and ill insure i dont browse csam from your network! And my alpr data says when youre home and your iot devs tell me when you go to sleep so we'll slip it in at before-bed-wank-time!
- JohnFen 11mo agoIn many states, car registration data is public information. If you have a license plate number, you can easily look up who the car is registered to, where they live, etc. License plate numbers are PII.
- nxm 11mo agoThis is simply not true.
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- JohnFen 11mo agoThank you for the correction. This was absolutely true in my state, but your reply made me double-check the law. It has changed. Now, the unredacted registration information is more limited. If you aren't in the (fairly broad) category of people who are entitled to the unredacted information, you can still get the records but the items legally defined as PII will be redacted. That still makes the license plate PII, though.
- potato3732842 11mo agoFlag you as being worth watching, or up your composite score by a point or whatever.
- mikkupikku 11mo agoSuppose the guy behind this website keeps a log of the requests, even accidentally, and eventually gets bought out by Flock themselves (websites critical of companies selling out is unfortunately common). Now Flock has a list of plates of people alert to flock and this gets added to your Palintir threat matrix, so the next time a cop pulls you over for some minor infraction his computer can prime him to be jumpy and trigger happy by labelling you as a potential dissident.
- boomboomsubban 11mo agoThey list their sources, if you care but don't trust them you could replicate it on your own.
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- hopelite 11mo agoI totally understand your sentiment, but you could just check a random assortment of license plate numbers you collected while driving around, which also includes yours. At the very least that would effectively obfuscate your license plate sufficiently that it could not be attributed beyond other methods that likely already have done so.
- blitzar 11mo agoReminds me of the (legit) form to claim compensation for a privacy leak. Put in your name, address, phone number, dob, ssn and bank details - we will post you a cheque for $2.50
- boringg 11mo ago100% always feels like a trap.