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It's filters, I posted an example of it below. Here is a link: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DO9MwTHCoR_/?igsh=MTZybml2NDBwbmhxMw%3D%3D https://www.instagram.c

It's filters, I posted an example of it below. Here is a link: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DO9MwTHCoR_/?igsh=MTZybml2NDBwbmhxMw%3D%3D https://www.instagram.com/reel/DO9MwTHCoR_/?igsh=MTZybml2NDB...

ares623 11mo ago
The time of giving these corps the benefit of the doubt is over.
- bongodongobob 11mo ago
  Wouldn't this just be unnecessary compute using AI? Compression or just normal filtering seems far more likely. It just seems like increasing the power bill for no reason.
  - ares623 11mo ago
    one thing we know for sure is that since chatgpt humiliated Google, all teams seem to have been given carte blanche freedom to do whatever it takes to make Google the leader again, and who knows what kind of people thrive in that kind of environment. just today we saw what OpenAI is willing to do to eke out any advantage it can.
  - michaelt 11mo ago
    Video filters aren't a radical new thing. You can apply things like 'slim waist' filters in real time with nothing more than a smartphone's processor. People in the media business have long found their media sells better if they use photoshop-or-whatever to give their subjects bigger chests, defined waists, clearer skin, fewer wrinkles, less shiny skin, more hair volume. Traditional manual photoshop tries to be subtle about such changes - but perhaps going from edits 0.5% of people can spot to bigger edits 2% of people can spot pays off in increased sales/engagement/ad revenue from those that don't spot the edits. And we all know every tech company is telling every department to shoehorn AI into their products anywhere they can. If I'm a Youtube product manager and adding a mandatory makeup filter doesn't need much compute; increases engagement overall; and gets me a $50k bonus for hitting my use-more-AI goal for the year - a little thing like authenticity might not stop me.
data-ottawa 11mo ago
It's very hard to tell in that instagram video, it would be a lot clearer if someone overlaid the original unaltered video and the one viewers on YouTube are seeing. That would presumably be an easy smoking gun for some content creator to produce. There are heavy alterations in that link, but having not seen the original, and in this format it's not clear to me how they compare.
- randycupertino 11mo ago
  you can literally see the filters turn on and off making his eyes and lips bigger as he moves his face. It's clearly a face filter.
  - diputsmonro 11mo ago
    To be extra clear for others, keep watching until about the middle of the video where he shows clips from the YouTube videos
    - scrollop 11mo ago
      I would but his right "eyebrow" is too distracting
      - randycupertino 11mo ago
        It's a scar in his eyebrow from a bicycle accident as a child: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2183994895455038 https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2183994895455038
- jeffbee 11mo ago
  What would "unaltered video" even mean.
  - bmicraft 11mo ago
    The video before it was uploaded.
echelon 11mo ago
The examples shown in the links are not filters for aesthetics. These are clearly experiments in data compression These people are having a moral crusade against an unannounced Google data compression test thinking Google is using AI to "enhance their videos". (Did they ever stop to ask themselves why or to what end?) This level of AI paranoia is getting annoying. This is clearly just Google trying to save money. Not undermine reality or whatever vague Orwellian thing they're being accused of.
- randycupertino 11mo ago
  Why would data compression make his eyes bigger?
  - echelon 11mo ago
    Because it's a neural technique, not one based on pixels or frames. https://blog.metaphysic.ai/what-is-neural-compression/ https://blog.metaphysic.ai/what-is-neural-compression/ Instead of artifacts in pixels, you'll see artifacts in larger features. https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.11379 https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.11379 Look at figure 5 and beyond.
    - mh- 11mo ago
      Like a visual version of psychoacoustic compression. Neat. Thanks for sharing.
      - anticensor 11mo ago
        Then they should improve psychovisual grounding of their compressors by a lot.
        mh- 11mo ago
        I'm commenting on the paper, not the sensationalist thread it was posted in.
- 11mo ago

ares623 11mo ago

The time of giving these corps the benefit of the doubt is over.

bongodongobob 11mo ago
Wouldn't this just be unnecessary compute using AI? Compression or just normal filtering seems far more likely. It just seems like increasing the power bill for no reason.
- ares623 11mo ago
  one thing we know for sure is that since chatgpt humiliated Google, all teams seem to have been given carte blanche freedom to do whatever it takes to make Google the leader again, and who knows what kind of people thrive in that kind of environment. just today we saw what OpenAI is willing to do to eke out any advantage it can.
- michaelt 11mo ago
  Video filters aren't a radical new thing. You can apply things like 'slim waist' filters in real time with nothing more than a smartphone's processor. People in the media business have long found their media sells better if they use photoshop-or-whatever to give their subjects bigger chests, defined waists, clearer skin, fewer wrinkles, less shiny skin, more hair volume. Traditional manual photoshop tries to be subtle about such changes - but perhaps going from edits 0.5% of people can spot to bigger edits 2% of people can spot pays off in increased sales/engagement/ad revenue from those that don't spot the edits. And we all know every tech company is telling every department to shoehorn AI into their products anywhere they can. If I'm a Youtube product manager and adding a mandatory makeup filter doesn't need much compute; increases engagement overall; and gets me a $50k bonus for hitting my use-more-AI goal for the year - a little thing like authenticity might not stop me.

data-ottawa 11mo ago

It's very hard to tell in that instagram video, it would be a lot clearer if someone overlaid the original unaltered video and the one viewers on YouTube are seeing. That would presumably be an easy smoking gun for some content creator to produce. There are heavy alterations in that link, but having not seen the original, and in this format it's not clear to me how they compare.

randycupertino 11mo ago
you can literally see the filters turn on and off making his eyes and lips bigger as he moves his face. It's clearly a face filter.
- diputsmonro 11mo ago
  To be extra clear for others, keep watching until about the middle of the video where he shows clips from the YouTube videos
  - scrollop 11mo ago
    I would but his right "eyebrow" is too distracting
    - randycupertino 11mo ago
      It's a scar in his eyebrow from a bicycle accident as a child: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2183994895455038 https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2183994895455038
jeffbee 11mo ago
What would "unaltered video" even mean.
- bmicraft 11mo ago
  The video before it was uploaded.

echelon 11mo ago

The examples shown in the links are not filters for aesthetics. These are clearly experiments in data compression These people are having a moral crusade against an unannounced Google data compression test thinking Google is using AI to "enhance their videos". (Did they ever stop to ask themselves why or to what end?) This level of AI paranoia is getting annoying. This is clearly just Google trying to save money. Not undermine reality or whatever vague Orwellian thing they're being accused of.

randycupertino 11mo ago
Why would data compression make his eyes bigger?
- echelon 11mo ago
  Because it's a neural technique, not one based on pixels or frames. https://blog.metaphysic.ai/what-is-neural-compression/ https://blog.metaphysic.ai/what-is-neural-compression/ Instead of artifacts in pixels, you'll see artifacts in larger features. https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.11379 https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.11379 Look at figure 5 and beyond.
  - mh- 11mo ago
    Like a visual version of psychoacoustic compression. Neat. Thanks for sharing.
    - anticensor 11mo ago
      Then they should improve psychovisual grounding of their compressors by a lot.
      - mh- 11mo ago
        I'm commenting on the paper, not the sensationalist thread it was posted in.
11mo ago