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Supply chain has left us. Since there's no new development happening with small phones, we'd have to settle for "older spec" screens (IE, new stock iPhone 5 sc
by dijit 11mo ago
Supply chain has left us.
Since there's no new development happening with small phones, we'd have to settle for "older spec" screens (IE, new stock iPhone 5 screens, with none of the colour accuracy, frame-rate etc improvements from the last 10 years).
People don't like "old spec", so they'd probably not buy those devices.
If you're a small player, then you're downstream of the supply chain, you don't make the rules.
Chicken and Egg problem.
Ironically people think there's no market for small phones due to apple making a "small phone" which had a larger screen size than an iPhone 6.. which was when phones started getting too big for me, and many people I spoke to.
So, you make a small phone that isn't actually small, it sells like poop so you presume that people don't want small phones..
- sho_hn 11mo agoRe us/we, you're not associated with Jolla, right? For clarity.
- dijit 11mo agoTo clarify: no. Though I suspect I worked with many staff members at Nokia. Their former CTO was my boss.
- jeffbee 11mo agoYou know what, that is exactly what Lenovo executives were telling their customers right up until the moment that Apple released Retina devices. Lenovo swore in a blog post that because of the overall panel market it was quite impossible to put an IPS display in a laptop, then a few days later Apple released a 221 DPI 15" IPS MacBook Pro.
- dijit 11mo agoApple definitely has the grunt I'm talking about to push the supply chain to change.
- MBCook 11mo agoAnd Lenovo doesn’t?
- dijit 11mo agoIf all thinkpads did the same thing, then maybe they would. If it was the flagship laptop (t14s or x1 carbon) then, yeah. Otherwise, no. Lenovo is a smaller player by far than HP or Dell, and less focused than Microsoft or Apple (commanding lower prices on average also). The most popular thinkpad is actually the E14, which is a budget notebook. Most finance departments can’t tell the difference and its usually developers getting the good hardware, so we have a warped perspective.
- jeffbee 11mo ago> Lenovo is a smaller player by far than HP or Dell Wut.
- SoftTalker 11mo ago> colour accuracy, frame-rate Absolutely irrelevant for what I do with a phone, and I'd wager that 90% of users would not notice the difference.
- dijit 11mo agoAre you really telling me that people wouldn't look at the spec-sheet and state (loudly) that they won't buy a phone because "in 2025 it doesn't even have 120fps"? I don't believe you if that's the case.
- SoftTalker 11mo agoI've never looked at the spec sheet when I bought a phone.
- dijit 11mo agoyet, every time there’s a “niche” product that people asked for on HN the first comment is almost always about specifications being out of date
- rob74 11mo agoI'm not the OP, but if you ask me, I'll tell you that I think most phone users out there don't even know what a fps is, let alone how many fps their smartphone has...
- crossroadsguy 11mo agoI had iPhone 12 Mini and then 14 and now 17. I can't practically tell the difference except for battery life, weight, and size.
- burningChrome 11mo agoIt will be pretty imperceivable when you stay within the same ecosystem. If you went from your 17 and then went to a mid tier phone like a Samsung A71, you would notice a difference. Display is something I for sure started paying attention to when I was jumping back and forth between Android and Apple when I went from my OnePlus to Apple and then to Samsung noticed differences.
- nialv7 11mo ago> Supply chain has left us. <rant> Who made the decision? There are still so many of us wanting a compact phone, but the big tech companies (Google, Apple, etc.) said no, therefore we can't have it. Not only can we not have it, they also closed the door on everyone, now even if someone wants to service this section of the market, they can't. Because, yes, the supply chain has left us. This is power - they are taking away our freedoms and anatomy. They are making decisions for us and we have absolutely no say. </rant> Compact phones is but one of examples. A more current example would be the rocketing DRAM price. We got do something to stop this, but I feel so powerless.
- Fnoord 11mo ago> We got do something to stop this, but I feel so powerless. I avoid anything from Sam Altman, and share the news that this asshole is single-handedly screwing up the DRAM market. It isn't much, but it is the least I can do.