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No interest in this exactly, but I am interested in the idea that third parties are now targeting the Framework form factor explicitly to sell upgrades/replacem
by emmp 10mo ago
No interest in this exactly, but I am interested in the idea that third parties are now targeting the Framework form factor explicitly to sell upgrades/replacements outside of the Framework marketplace.
- browningstreet 10mo agoMy first thought was, "How many units could they possibly expect to sell given this target?"
- cmrdporcupine 10mo agoSounds like the board also somehow works inside a mini-itx chassis or something?
- clhodapp 10mo agoIt's not standard mini-itx. Since the physical form factors for their laptop boards are published publicly and are somewhat stable, are "desktop" cases for them.
- throwuxiytayq 10mo agoGiven it's a Framework 13 mainboard, you can probably put it in any Framework 13-compatible enclosure: https://frame.work/products/cooler-master-mainboard-case https://frame.work/products/cooler-master-mainboard-case https://frame.work/products/framework-laptop-13-mainboard-home-server-kit https://frame.work/products/framework-laptop-13-mainboard-ho... https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Framework-Laptop-13 https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Framework-Laptop-13 etc., lots of designs available.
- nish__ 10mo agoWow. That's amazing truly. They really are entirely open source. You can even 3D print one.
- bsimpson 10mo agoThe Legion Go is basically that with some joycons and a screen. I keep mine in my entertainment center when I'm not using it handheld, and play plastic instrument games on the big screen. Looks like this would be an easy entry point to a DIY Steam Machine that takes up ~no space under your TV.
- Someone 10mo agoFTA: “the company has introduced a mainboard that can be installe in the Framework Laptop 13 or in a mini PC case“ ⇒ their market likely isn’t enormous, but it is larger than that of Framework Laptop owners.
- dontlaugh 10mo agoThat is interesting. I wish someone made a keyboard that doesn’t suck, ideally split as well.
- thebigspacefuck 10mo agohttps://blog.perprogramming.com/posts/framework-ortholinear-keyboard/ https://blog.perprogramming.com/posts/framework-ortholinear-...
- dontlaugh 10mo agoYes, something like that. Ideally for a reasonably sized 13-14” laptop.
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- lawn 10mo agoVery cool! Although to be pedantic, that's not an "ortholinear" keyboard (as in a square grid) rather a keyboard with column stagger (which you should use). I wonder if you could make it for a FW13 too? I know QMK doesn't work for 13. Edit: I see now that it uses a separate microcontroller, so yes if you could make it fit then it should work.
- evanjrowley 10mo agoIt also bothers me that the meaning of "ortholinear" has been lost, but at least it's a sign that the hobby has grown to a certain point.
- dontlaugh 10mo agoIt should be possible to make a dumb version of such a keyboard wired the same as the stock one, just with the keys moved around. It would need some OS configuration to be truly useful, though.
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- roughly 10mo agoYeah, there’s a lot of critiques of the product/packaging/etc, but this feels like huge validation of the Framework model - this is an unrelated 3rd party looking to get a chip in consumer hands who decided to use the FW chassis. That’s Exactly what we all were hoping for when Framework first launched.
- NewJazz 10mo agoYeah this is what annoyed me about Pine64's Pinebook Pro 2 plans... No upgrade kits, they wanted to completely change the form factor! The chassis of my PBP is great (brittle plastic notwithstanding)! That's the last thing I want to replace in the device.
- whatevaa 10mo agoMore ewaste. I have first one, chasis/screen good, hardware shit, software unsupported. Abandoned by everybody. Collecting dust.
- NewJazz 10mo agoYeah I genuinely don't understand why they didn't consider fast tracking rk3588S boards for a retrofit. Drivers weren't good for a while, but they weren't hopeless either.
- samrus 10mo agoExactly. This is exactly we get in return for compromising on quality and price with framework. Other tech is cheaper because of planned obsolescence or lock in. Im glad to pay more money to have this freedom
- giancarlostoro 10mo agoIts about time, I hope System76 comes up with their own version of the Framework laptop, because I would love to buy a laptop where I can swap out all internals, motherboard etc. but I really also want to work with System76 because I love what they are doing with POP_OS! (though I prefer arch these days, I can still use their Desktop environment etc) and love that they make Linux hardware specifically. We have needed a "Jeep of Laptops" for a while, maybe someone needs to spec out a fully open source design that any manufacturer can target.
- shkkmo 10mo ago> We have needed a "Jeep of Laptops" for a while, maybe someone needs to spec out a fully open source design that any manufacturer can target. I'm not sure if this counts in your book, but releasing all this stuff is closer than anyone else is to that dream. > https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Framework-Laptop-16 https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Framework-Laptop-16
- adgjlsfhk1 10mo agoHonestly a Framework+System76 merger would make a lot of sense. System76 cares about the software but uses whitelabeled hardware. Framework has done excellent hardware engineering but doesn't care much about the software.
- joombaga 10mo agoI don't know that it's fair to say Framework don't care much about the software. Their oldest devices are still getting firmware updates. At any rate, Pop!_OS runs very well on Framework Laptops (though I use Arch + Hyprland, w/ Windows on their storage expansion card).
- fooqux 10mo agoThat's a bit of a hot take considering all the donations they've been making to OSS projects. Sure, maybe they're not making Yet Another Distro but they're donating to and upstreamimg patches to things that everyone (including PopOS) uses. To me, that's far from not caring about the software. Especially when you compare to other vendors like Pine.
- legitronics 10mo agoThere’s also this RISC V thing, I ordered one in July and got mine in November. I could transplant the desktop model I got into my original framework, but I haven’t attempted it. https://store.deepcomputing.io/products/dc-roma-ai-pc-risc-v-mainboard-ii-for-framework-laptop-13 https://store.deepcomputing.io/products/dc-roma-ai-pc-risc-v...
- Gracana 10mo agoThat's really cool. What's it like to use in terms of performance and software compatibility?
- legitronics 10mo agoit has a few issues, I think jeffgeerling sums it up fairly well. https://github.com/geerlingguy/sbc-reviews/issues/82 https://github.com/geerlingguy/sbc-reviews/issues/82 "Like the Pi 4, I think this system is the first RISC-V desktop environment that isn't painful to use, just inconvenient. Actions still have delays, but the delays are more reasonable, and don't make me constantly question if the computer's frozen." also some really odd choices by Eswin for the eic7702x, which is essentially 2 p550 chips glued together.
- amelius 10mo agoApple: "We can't make great products if we don't completely control everything" Framework: "Let us show you how it is done!"
- HunterWare 10mo agoLooking at the comparison btw M class machines and the Minisforum MS-R1 that is the same chip, I'm not sure Apple is being proved wrong here.
- nine_k 10mo agoHow is CIX CP8180 the same chip as any of the Apple M chips?. Also, a very different approach to GPU.
- unparagoned 10mo agoApples integration of products leaves framework in the first