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Apple's tribute to Steve Jobs, one year on.
- ashishb4u 14y agojust curious, why is the link "apple.com/?hn" ?
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- lordlarm 14y agoBecause http://www.apple.com http://www.apple.com was submitted 600+ days ago and HN does not allow reposts.
- mparlane 14y agoBecause the link has been posted before, to get around the duplicate detection you append meaningless GET params.
- ashishb4u 14y agoMore because http://www.apple.com/ http://www.apple.com/ did not opened the Tim's note, while http://www.apple.com/?hn http://www.apple.com/?hn did. It seems any random GET param is indeed meaningful in this case :)
- kalleboo 14y agoWorks for me without the GET param. Maybe it's just because you're returning to the page?
- desaiguddu 14y agoIf you like this video you would like our creation Steve Jobs Timeline as well - www.nuskhalabs.com and http://tmblr.co/Zpw4yxUgp9Mi http://tmblr.co/Zpw4yxUgp9Mi
- netvarun 14y agoPage miserably fails to load on Chrome running on Ubuntu http://imgur.com/eWREY http://imgur.com/eWREY
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- yogrish 14y agoya fails even with safari.
- thejosh 14y agoTry the mp4's posted above - http://www.apple.com/105/media/us/stevejobs/stevejobs-memorial-us-20121005_848x480.mp4 http://www.apple.com/105/media/us/stevejobs/stevejobs-memori....
- deanpcmad 14y agoIt says at the top that you need to allow VLC play to play the video...
- bookwormAT 14y agoAm I the only one who finds it kind of sick that Apple is squeezing out as much PR as possible of the death of their former CEO? Let the man rest in peace.
- recuter 14y agoThe Apple website is one of the bigger ones - and yet they essentially removed all of their products from the landing page, if anything I would guess that there will be a small dip in revenue today for the online store. I disagree that this is about PR, the people running the company lost their colleague and probably genuinely miss Steve. A somewhat classy tribute. It also reminds everybody of their mission, contrast with HP for example who have lost their way.
- nicholassmith 14y agoI sure hate it when it's the anniversary of an event and people take the time to remember it. Keep in mind to many of the people at Apple Steve Jobs was the company, and to many there he was a friend. Generally people do take the opportunity to remember the people they've lost on the day they've lost them.
- SG- 14y agoYour comment would be valid if they actually did try and make money off it, but they're likely going to lose some sales. You probably are missing something if you also think he was just a former CEO, he was a bit more than that to Apple.
- mcphilip 14y agoThe only conspiracy theory here that I can dream up is that this is both a fitting tribute to Jobs and a not-so-subtle plea for consumers to associate any new iProducts in the future as ultimately coming some Jobsian level of genious.
- AnotherBanned 14y agoYou're not allowed to talk bad about apple here. Enjoy your shadow ban.
- rbanffy 14y agoFor those having trouble with the video, http://www.apple.com/105/media/us/stevejobs/stevejobs-memorial-us-20121005_848x480.mp4 http://www.apple.com/105/media/us/stevejobs/stevejobs-memori...
- codesuela 14y agoDirect link to video: http://movies.apple.com/media/us/stevejobs/stevejobs-memorial-us-20121005_r848-9dwc.mov?width=848&height=480 http://movies.apple.com/media/us/stevejobs/stevejobs-memoria... I used Movie Player to open it (Movie -> open location)
- pooriaazimi 14y agoDirect download link: http://www.apple.com/105/media/us/stevejobs/stevejobs-memorial-us-20121005_848x480.mp4 http://www.apple.com/105/media/us/stevejobs/stevejobs-memori... - 41 MB (hint: I always download Apple videos (for future reference, and because my internet connection is really slow) and the trick is to replace "_r848-9dwc.mov" at the end to "_848x480.mov")
- thejosh 14y agoHow different will this be from the Kim Jun Il tribute?
- jrockway 14y agoVery different. North Korea actually has nuclear weapons for use in their random "thermonuclear wars".
- CountHackulus 14y agoBut didn't Steve Jobs threaten to "Go Nuclear" with patents?
- krypes 14y ago"Nuclear patent winter is coming" -- House Stallman words
- jpxxx 14y agoI could actually smell this comment from five pages up.
- seivan 14y agoRemoving their products from the landing page to pay tribute to Steve. Would Dell or Samsung do this? Genuine question.
- joering2 14y agoFirst and foremost - they know that it wont stop one person from buying -- eventually, even if, arguendo, it would temporarily stop someone, if they watch Steve's message they will get the company DNA so sooner or later they will convert them. Second, money is not always everything. You know H&N the biggest New York tech shop -- multiple stores high, automated baskets flying everywhere, a product's catalog of 1,500 pages, things you can buy there that you didnt know exist. They always full easily making half a mil in profit a day. You know they close their doors every single Friday for religious purposes, regardless of what their customers think.
- georgespencer 14y agoIt's a slightly fatuous question. Do you mean "[in a world where Samsung or Dell had a public personality like Steve Jobs] would they remove the products from their landing page?" or do you mean "[if Michael Dell died] would Dell remove their products from the landing page?" If they had someone like Steve they definitely would. They don't, so it doesn't matter.
- dholowiski 14y agoI think he means "[if Michael Dell died] would Dell remove their products from the landing page?". Dell does not have a personality like Apple did. How about, if Tim Cook died, would Apple do the same?
- digitalengineer 14y agoMusic by Yo-Yo Ma I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZn_VBgkPNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZn_VBgkPNY
- thaumaturgy 14y agoYes; it's Bach's Cello Suite #1. You've probably also heard it in Master and Commander, where it was performed by Yo-yo Ma. It's one of my favorite pieces of string music.
- digitalengineer 14y agoDidn't Yo-Yo Ma perform a private concert at Steve Jobs' house? I think it was in the biography.
- thaumaturgy 14y agoHuh, dunno. I haven't gotten around to reading the biography yet. I wouldn't be surprised; they seemed to have a mutual respect for each-other. Just found out that he performed at the memorial service though.
- digitalengineer 14y ago"When Jobs was ill, Yo Yo Ma came to visit, bringing his 1733 Stradivarius cello and performing a concert in the Jobs’ living room. Jobs, who had been moved to tears by the music, told him, “Your playing is the best argument I’ve ever heard for the existence of God, because I don’t really believe a human alone can do this.” He made Ma promise to play at his funeral".
- thaumaturgy 14y agoThank you for sharing that.
- sjwright 14y ago
- tambourine_man 14y agoNo mention of the iPad or OS X.
- podperson 14y agoIf you had to boil Steve Jobs's biggest contributions down to a minimum, it's: * the first genuinely usable, affordable GUI (i.e. the Mac) * the iPod * the iPhone I'd say the Apple ][ is debatably on that list (the first personal computer than "just worked" or something). NeXTStep is a wonderful OS with a lot of Good Stuff in it but it's a piece of a product. The iPod Touch and iPhone are fairly obvious evolutions of the iPhone. The other missing item isn't an Apple product: Pixar.
- spinchange 14y agoNo question about Apple ][ - That was the first computer schools across the country (US) started buying en masse. To my mind, that is the product that really touched off the personal computer revolution. As you mention, the Mac paradigm shift was about the GUI, Mouse, and taking what they started with the I and ][ to the next, more refined and "product-ized" level.
- Zelphyr 14y agoI'm pretty sure the Apple //e was the first computer I ever touched. That or a TRS-80. But I choose to repress that memory.
- podperson 14y agoI tend to agree with you. (I actually started writing a defense of my initial position and realized that I was wrong!) I think some would like to dismiss the Apple ][ as, say, merely being the luckiest of a bunch of similarly conceived products that came out around the same time (e.g. the Commodore Pet was announced earlier but delivered later, and the TRS-80 came out slightly afterwards), but then not only was the Apple ][ more successful, it was also dramatically superior technically (e.g. its expansion bus allowed for self-configuring cards that could even slave the computer, which led to products like the DTACK 68k board that turned a humble Apple ][ into a workstation-class computer back in 1980. http://www.easy68k.com/paulrsm/dg/ http://www.easy68k.com/paulrsm/dg/
- eintr 14y agoGross.
- markmm 14y agoI bet they wish he could come back, Maps/Siri/lack of innovation on new products.
- SG- 14y agoEverything coming out now went through him, do you think it really takes a year to develop products? The maps team had been working on the new maps for years. I guess Apple should have invented warp drive in the last year too.
- markmm 14y agoHe wouldn't have released it, he will be spinning in his grave right now. They need to ditch Cook and get someone with a pair of balls.
- SG- 14y agoJobs chose Cook and groomed/trained him and I'm sure gave him some specific details on the pipeline.
- bratsche 14y agoI think they would have released it. It seems they had little choice. It was either release it or renegotiate their contract with Google since it is almost up.
- dholowiski 14y agoSteve released plenty of crap. Anybody remember iCloud? How about Ping?
- weego 14y agoWhat a stunningly vulgar comment.
- macarthy12 14y agoIf you reset safari you get the video. Interesting
- k1ds3ns4t10n 14y agoIsn't that just because the default homepage in safari is apple.com?
- francov88 14y agoHas it already been a year? Jesus...
- notlisted 14y agoAnything to detract from the disaster that is Apple Maps. If I could I would undo two things, first revert to iOS5, then bring Jobs back. Ah, the good old days.
- mratzloff 14y agoYou would bring back Steve Jobs second?
- notlisted 14y agoSeriously, downvotes? I was gonna bring him back! Yeah second, because my immediate problem is getting to my intended destination tonight and since the upgrade which screwed with my WiFi tethering and maps that's a problem. It would take even him more than a couple of hours to fix this. A downgrade I could do myself, if Apple allowed it that is...
- MartinCron 14y agomy immediate problem is getting to my intended destination tonight Just in case you hadn't noticed, complaining about your inability to get to where you're going with your new maps app looks really whiny and entitled. Go back just a few short years in human history and we didn't have any smartphones with maps and GPS, and you know what? people actually managed to find their destinations. Get some perspective.
- notlisted 14y agoIt worked three weeks ago, now it doesn't. So I miss Jobs. FYI, I was a participant at the root of that development (drove with GPS on the roof of a mini cooper in 1992, the company I worked for then, licensed data to Google Maps for many years). The perspective I have is that there was no reason to screw with something that worked at the expense of the user. Still miss jobs. My wife's Android navigation will do tonight. Her S3 Looks pretty nifty suddenly.
- pervycreeper 14y agoTechnology and a focus on the future go hand in hand. I wonder whether Jobs (at his best) would be dwelling on the past like this (over any event)? What happens when an army of sheep loses its lion? Also, while the hockey puck quote in the video could be interpreted as a hedge/ preemptive rebuttal of the above observation, I don't think it was meant that way. The tremendous irony there must have escaped quite a few people, since they ended up running with it.
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- yanofsky 14y agoThere's irony in the page using a plug in for the video and SVG to render the text of Tim Cook's letter, right?
- flatline3 14y agoIn chrome, I'm seeing a <video> tag, not a plugin.
- yanofsky 14y agoI'm getting a quicktime plugin in chrome
- irrelative 14y agoWhat would be the irony in using SVG?
- philip1209 14y agoIf you click the "x" in the upper-left, there is a message from Tim Cook about Steve's passing.
- tlrobinson 14y agoHow do you fullscreen videos on apple.com?
- stevewilhelm 14y agoThere are few founders that are remembered as fondly as Steve after they retire or pass away: Grove, Gates, Hewlett, Packard come to mind. Something to think different about.
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- iambvk 14y agoI think this is the first time Apple posted a non QuickTime video on their site. As a Linux user, it felt different :)
- kalininalex 14y agoStill QuickTime for me (Chrome on Mac/Lion) and it doesn't work by default (something with permissions).
- alex1 14y agoI think I just found an easter egg in Siri in tribute to Steve: http://i.imgur.com/Ptz47.png http://i.imgur.com/Ptz47.png
- acangiano 14y agoI got it too a while ago. I asked "Is Steve Jobs your father?" and Siri prompted me with the same page.
- JoeCortopassi 14y agoYesterday: "Apple is a worthless patent troll. All of their 'inventions' are things that were invented somewhere else. The only thing they did was patent other people's work, then charge twice as much for it to a bunch of worthless fan-boys." Today: "R.I.P. Steve Jobs. He did so much to change the face of technology forever." ` Sometimes you have to sit back and appreciate the fickleness of a crowd...
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoBoth are generalisations. Besides, Apple was simply the first to do some of these things, or the first to do it well. But many were inevitable.
- Terretta 14y ago> Apple was simply the first to do some of these things, or the first to do it well. But many were inevitable. The hover car is inevitable. Should I not be amazed at one when I see it? I guess not, because whoever makes it will "simply" be the first to do the inevitable.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoWell, the App Store was accidental, for example. I have no evidence of this, except that it would have been fairly obvious to Apple that, having had the iTunes Store, and sold apps this way before, letting any developer make apps would be great.
- pkulak 14y agoIt's really a little from column A, a little from column B. I'm a huge Android guy right now, and that Samsung lawsuit annoyed me to no end, but I still watched that video straight through and even sat in a bit of silence at the end. Even I can recognize what Steve and Apple have done, and what America and the world has lost in his dying early.
- moheeb 14y ago
- rodly 14y agoA moving tribute and wonderful video in and of itself. I'm far too young (21) to fully appreciate everything he embodied. His early death really makes you appreciate the luck of being alive. From the normal to the billionaire magicians, remember this: "The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time." - Mark Twain
- logn 14y agoWell, I don't think it's the most fitting tribute to Jobs. It sounds more like an Apple commercial. Granted, Apple is the sum of his life's work. But a tribute to someone should be more than that person explaining the greatness of Apple, it should be someone explaining the greatness of Jobs, IMHO.
- lurker14 14y agoIt's perfect. What could be a more fitting tribute to Steve Jobs than to put an elegant facade on someone else's work?
- skeptik 14y agoYou know, I opened Safari this morning and, while I was startled by the music suddenly blasting through my speakers with no warning, I watched the video through to the end. It was nice, I enjoyed it. But EVERY TIME I OPEN A NEW SAFARI WINDOW IT STARTS PLAYING AGAIN. Sound and everything. Couldn't they have set a cookie for "already watched"? The annoyance this occasioned was the final push I needed to go into the preferences and reset my Safari home page from the default Apple page -- actually, I just chose to have new windows open empty -- but Apple has now lost the chance to advertise to me every time I open a new browser window.
- sswezey 14y agoOr you know, you could change your home page...
- skeptik 14y agoAs I wrote above, I did change my home page. In at least 5 years of Mac/Safari-use I have never bothered to change my home page before, even though I don't particularly care for seeing Apple advertising every time I open a new window. I'm just lazy that way. But having music (even beautiful music) play unbidden through my speakers every time I open a new window has forced me to make the change. Naturally (being lazy) I'm not going to change it back tomorrow, either. And that's precisely the point I'm making: no matter how classy the video is, this is a minor mis-step for Apple, because I'm surely not the only one who will be annoyed enough to change my homepage. And each person who changes their homepage as a result of this is one more person who won't see what Apple wants them to see every time they open up a browser window.
- aeturnum 14y agoI think his point is that apple makes the safari homepage apple.com . They know that every mac they sell will start there. Despite knowing that, they don't seem to have thought that users might be annoyed by the video playing every time. I don't think that really matters, but it's interesting to talk about.
- vicapow 14y agoPeople say "Steve wouldn't have done this to maps." but they're wrong. Apple still has it because they're still willing to piss off their users in the short term, but for the benefit of the long term. They're the only major company that sees and understands the innovator's dilemma.
- jonathansizz 14y agoNo, they're the only major company that has a huge and scarily-loyal fan-base who are willing to rationalize major screw-ups as some kind of visionary strategic decision. And they didn't innovate - they replaced a nicely-functioning product with a broken imitation.
- endemic 14y agoAs pointed out by others, the screw-up was not admitting that Apple Maps launched as an inferior product. The long-term benefits of a homegrown mapping product were very obvious, such as turn-by-turn and vector tiles.
- mogrim 14y agoSo tune it, get it right, then release it.
- clockstrikesten 14y agoI see this implied repeatedly by everyone, so could someone explain how customers on the ground using Apple Maps are somehow providing Apple with any data that could improve the maps?
- onedognight 14y agoFor example if you find lots of People driving in a consistent manner on what is not already a road on your map then it needs to become one. You can do this ordered by number the number of people per unmapped road segment to have the most effect. Another example, if you find that everyone drives off the road in a certain area then comes back on a little farther down and that no one drives the intervening segment, then the road probably needs to be adjusted.
- thebigkick 14y agoI'd hate to be the guy to do this but... I agree, to some extent, with Malcolm Gladwell's take on the Steve Jobs legacy. http://tinyurl.com/br6rl7b http://tinyurl.com/br6rl7b Still, RIP Steve and thanks for inspiring us. Sent from my iPhone.
- vicapow 14y ago"in relation to Microsoft's Bill Gates" Their's different types of legacies you can leave behind. apples to oranges.
- philwelch 14y agoWho's going to remember Malcolm Gladwell in 50 years?
- MartinCron 14y agoUnless I'm too senile, I will. Gladwell's writings are (if nothing else) extremely popular and extremely enjoyable to read. We remember content from 50 years ago that wasn't half as good.
- SquareWheel 14y agoIs there any reason for that to be a tinyurl link?
- rustynails 14y agoHistory is not so simple as this guy points out. Jobs had a significant impact, no doubt. People like Carnegie were not so nice, nor Rockefeller, Edison, Khan, Atilla the Hun. However, history remembers these people just fine, for good and bad. I believe it's quite normal to see the good and bad in people, because in reality that's how we all are. Jobsy left on a high note, turned Apple around. He will be remembered - and fondly, might I hazard a guess.
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- mongol 14y agoIs this the beginning of making a legend and a myth out of Steve Jobs? Yes let's remember him but also let's move on.
- timpeterson 14y agothis makes me sad (and that i'm the first one to use the word "sad" in this thread makes me even more sad)
- TechNewb 14y agoBeautiful video. Well made, well executed, and showed how Jobs was a visionary for Apple and the brand. Love the minimalist presentation of the video, how the entire homepage is 'whited out' with just a simple video. Amazing experience, and made me remember some of my favorite Job quotes. Well done Apple.
- kine 14y agoWe miss you, Steve.
- amartya916 14y agoScrolling through all the comments, I find that it is impossible to not encounter cynicism - e.g. Apple is trying to divert from the Maps folly etc. - in this forum. This is Apple paying respect and taking a moment to reminisce about Steve ... it's just a nice, human thing to do.
- Zariel 14y agoEven I am a staunch anti Apple proponent but I have to sit back and applaud what Steve has achieved and what an incredibly visionary and accomplished man he was, I wish I could live like he had. The video was a frank reminder that we had lost a great man.
- nicetryguy 14y ago* Not using the HTML5 Video Tag
- achal 14y agoIt's using it on Chrome for me.
- himerzi 14y agoWhat a guy, flesh and bone, and all the stronger for it.
- mogrim 14y agoJobs, meh. Hardly up there with Ford or Rolls & Royce, for example. Far more inspiring, far greater creations, and much more interesting companies. Still, his products were ever so pretty.
- jason_slack 14y agoI like the way they show the video, "Exit out" In the upper left corner, anyone know what they use to do this?
- saurabhpalan 14y agoIts not about the idea, about the product or about the technology. It was Steve's unique way to change the way a product is made, to make it intuitive, elegant and simple which set him apart. Its not the idea, but implementation of the idea, in the most creative and beautiful manner, that matters.
- gcr 14y agoWhy is there a ?hn link referral tag at the end of the URL?
- Zenst 14y agoTasteful, elequent and respectfuly well designed tribute. I'm sure even the late great Steve Jobs would of approved.
- henna 14y agoWhy must I watch the tribute every time i open safari? I miss him less each time...
- bborud 14y agoTo me that was a bit of a special day: on the one-year anniversary of Steve Jobs' death I get the official notification that I am on the transplant list for a new kidney. (I also spent that morning on the operating table having a PD-catheter installed).