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Some levers are accessible to everyone, but the implied social contract is that you only pull it if you actually need it, because the system doesn't have enough

by int_19h 11mo ago

Some levers are accessible to everyone, but the implied social contract is that you only pull it if you actually need it, because the system doesn't have enough resources for everyone to do it.

margalabargala 11mo ago
Yes, I agree. Trouble is, getting teenagers to accept and live by that isn't something that will pan out. Societies have been trying for millenia. If your system built for teenagers relies on the social contract in this way, it's a bad system. People who are over a half decade from a fully developed brain aren't going to grasp this.
- groundzeros2015 11mo ago
  Teenagers aren’t getting disability accommodations. Their parents are.
  - margalabargala 11mo ago
    What? The parents of the college students in the article are not the ones being given extra time on tests and being given solo on-campus housing. What disability accomodations do you think the parents are receiving?
    - groundzeros2015 11mo ago
      - The parents are getting them FOR their kids. - why are we acting like stanford students are unaccountable teenagers
      - margalabargala 11mo ago
        > The parents are getting them FOR their kids. That's not mentioned in the article. Is this your personal speculation or do you have something to support that claim? The article seems to make it clear that it is the students themselves getting these accommodations, so your claim is directly contradicting the article we're commenting on. > why are we acting like stanford students are unaccountable teenagers Well they're definitionally teenagers, and if you know of a way to make teenagers act en masse accountable to society's values, that would be a novel development in social human history going back to Ancient Greece. So barring that, we should treat the teenagers whose brains have not yet developed enough to grasp society-wide consequences for personal actions as such.

by int_19h 11mo ago

Some levers are accessible to everyone, but the implied social contract is that you only pull it if you actually need it, because the system doesn't have enough resources for everyone to do it.

margalabargala 11mo ago

Yes, I agree. Trouble is, getting teenagers to accept and live by that isn't something that will pan out. Societies have been trying for millenia. If your system built for teenagers relies on the social contract in this way, it's a bad system. People who are over a half decade from a fully developed brain aren't going to grasp this.

groundzeros2015 11mo ago
Teenagers aren’t getting disability accommodations. Their parents are.
- margalabargala 11mo ago
  What? The parents of the college students in the article are not the ones being given extra time on tests and being given solo on-campus housing. What disability accomodations do you think the parents are receiving?
  - groundzeros2015 11mo ago
    - The parents are getting them FOR their kids. - why are we acting like stanford students are unaccountable teenagers
    - margalabargala 11mo ago
      > The parents are getting them FOR their kids. That's not mentioned in the article. Is this your personal speculation or do you have something to support that claim? The article seems to make it clear that it is the students themselves getting these accommodations, so your claim is directly contradicting the article we're commenting on. > why are we acting like stanford students are unaccountable teenagers Well they're definitionally teenagers, and if you know of a way to make teenagers act en masse accountable to society's values, that would be a novel development in social human history going back to Ancient Greece. So barring that, we should treat the teenagers whose brains have not yet developed enough to grasp society-wide consequences for personal actions as such.