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This seems contrary to their stated goal to prioritize AI safety. It is against the law to prioritize AI safety if you run a public company. You must prioritiz

by catigula 11mo ago

This seems contrary to their stated goal to prioritize AI safety. It is against the law to prioritize AI safety if you run a public company. You must prioritize profits for your shareholders.

unstatusthequo 11mo ago
Do you think they currently exist to prioritize AI safety? That shit won’t pay the bills, will it? Then they don’t exist. Goals are nice, OKRs yay, but at the end of the day, we all know the dollar drives everything.
- simgt 11mo ago
  No that's not what they think, that's why they used sarcasm.
- PunchyHamster 11mo ago
  It's simple, they will redefine the term (just like OpenAI redefined "AGI" into "just makes a lot of money) into "doesn't leak user data" and then claim success
sidrag22 11mo ago
"We expect that advertising funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of the consumers." -google cofounders Larry Page and Sergey Brin then came the dot com bubble.
vessenes 11mo ago
Unless you're a benefit corp, this is true for private companies as well. Quick q - which of the AI companies are benefit corps?
- catigula 11mo ago
  Anthropic, the corporation we're talking about.
wyre 11mo ago
Yes, they will prioritize AI safety until their board of directors says that needs to change.
AlexandrB 11mo ago
One of Google's stated goals was "don't be evil". This stuff shouldn't be trusted - it's pure marketing.
- anticensor 10mo ago
  That rule is still in Google Code of Conduct and Alphabet Investors' Code of Conduct, but reduced down to a footnote.
JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
> It is against the law to prioritize AI safety if you run a public company. You must prioritize profits for your shareholders This is nonsense. Public companies are just as free as private companies to maximise whatever sharedholders wants them to.
- anticensor 10mo ago
  The exceptions are government-owned enterprises, investment funds and entities that are run in a creditor-in-possession regime.
malcolmgreaves 11mo ago
Incorrect. They're not a C corp, they're a public benefit corporation. They have a different legal obligation. Notably, they have a legal obligation to deliver on their mission. That's why Anthropic is the only actual mission-driven AI company. They do have to balance that legal obligation with the traditional legal obligations that a for-profit corporation has. But most importantly, it is actually against the law for them not to balance prioritizing making money and prioritizing AI safety!

This seems contrary to their stated goal to prioritize AI safety. It is against the law to prioritize AI safety if you run a public company. You must prioritize profits for your shareholders.

unstatusthequo 11mo ago

Do you think they currently exist to prioritize AI safety? That shit won’t pay the bills, will it? Then they don’t exist. Goals are nice, OKRs yay, but at the end of the day, we all know the dollar drives everything.

simgt 11mo ago
No that's not what they think, that's why they used sarcasm.
PunchyHamster 11mo ago
It's simple, they will redefine the term (just like OpenAI redefined "AGI" into "just makes a lot of money) into "doesn't leak user data" and then claim success

sidrag22 11mo ago

"We expect that advertising funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of the consumers." -google cofounders Larry Page and Sergey Brin then came the dot com bubble.

vessenes 11mo ago

Unless you're a benefit corp, this is true for private companies as well. Quick q - which of the AI companies are benefit corps?

catigula 11mo ago
Anthropic, the corporation we're talking about.

wyre 11mo ago

Yes, they will prioritize AI safety until their board of directors says that needs to change.

AlexandrB 11mo ago

One of Google's stated goals was "don't be evil". This stuff shouldn't be trusted - it's pure marketing.

anticensor 10mo ago
That rule is still in Google Code of Conduct and Alphabet Investors' Code of Conduct, but reduced down to a footnote.

JumpCrisscross 11mo ago

> It is against the law to prioritize AI safety if you run a public company. You must prioritize profits for your shareholders This is nonsense. Public companies are just as free as private companies to maximise whatever sharedholders wants them to.

anticensor 10mo ago
The exceptions are government-owned enterprises, investment funds and entities that are run in a creditor-in-possession regime.

malcolmgreaves 11mo ago

Incorrect. They're not a C corp, they're a public benefit corporation. They have a different legal obligation. Notably, they have a legal obligation to deliver on their mission. That's why Anthropic is the only actual mission-driven AI company. They do have to balance that legal obligation with the traditional legal obligations that a for-profit corporation has. But most importantly, it is actually against the law for them not to balance prioritizing making money and prioritizing AI safety!