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Dissapointing. The X220 is built well and has a great keyboard. Any idea why the focus on the X200/201 instead of the X220/230?

neilv 11mo ago
I have no idea why they did, but some pros: X200 is less expensive, (I think) it has a little more room, and it doesn't have the X220's crazy design flaw with the lid shell. I also had better luck getting genuine replacement keyboards for the X200. Half of the X220 keyboards I stockpiled arrived as substandard garbage, even though I was trying to avoid that.
- camgunz 11mo ago
  What's the lid shell design flaw (did a little googling couldn't find it)?
  - networked 11mo ago
    According to https://old.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1d13sb6/should_i_get_the_x220/ https://old.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1d13sb6/should_i_...: > - Display lid is very fragile at the top where the wifi antennas are and can easily crack there
    - neilv 11mo ago
      Yes, if you look at a photo of the X220 lid, what looks like a cosmetic accent across the lid near screen-top is actually a seam, between the nice alloy traditional lid, and some plastic that's barely held on, painted to look the same. Even minor impact can break the little plastic screw hole tabs that hold the screen-top edge of the lid. Absolutely not what you want from a ThinkPad, which has a legacy of being durable. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fgiving-the-x220-a-new-chance-in-life-v0-mvsitozcql5e1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Df41aaadcebd9989724d77d611b76e113ca30858b https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.... A disappointing thing about this is that someone changed the design, to this, to be more fragile and non-ThinkPad. In this way, it's similar to the series of regression changes to the keyboard, and now the TrackPoint.
scrlk 11mo ago
Speculation on my part, but the X220/230 had a simplified design (e.g. clickpad, no lid latch, fewer blinkenlights) compared to the X200/201. These FrankenPad mods are typically for die hard classic ThinkPad fans.

neilv 11mo ago

I have no idea why they did, but some pros: X200 is less expensive, (I think) it has a little more room, and it doesn't have the X220's crazy design flaw with the lid shell. I also had better luck getting genuine replacement keyboards for the X200. Half of the X220 keyboards I stockpiled arrived as substandard garbage, even though I was trying to avoid that.

camgunz 11mo ago
What's the lid shell design flaw (did a little googling couldn't find it)?
- networked 11mo ago
  According to https://old.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1d13sb6/should_i_get_the_x220/ https://old.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1d13sb6/should_i_...: > - Display lid is very fragile at the top where the wifi antennas are and can easily crack there
  - neilv 11mo ago
    Yes, if you look at a photo of the X220 lid, what looks like a cosmetic accent across the lid near screen-top is actually a seam, between the nice alloy traditional lid, and some plastic that's barely held on, painted to look the same. Even minor impact can break the little plastic screw hole tabs that hold the screen-top edge of the lid. Absolutely not what you want from a ThinkPad, which has a legacy of being durable. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fgiving-the-x220-a-new-chance-in-life-v0-mvsitozcql5e1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Df41aaadcebd9989724d77d611b76e113ca30858b https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.... A disappointing thing about this is that someone changed the design, to this, to be more fragile and non-ThinkPad. In this way, it's similar to the series of regression changes to the keyboard, and now the TrackPoint.

scrlk 11mo ago

Speculation on my part, but the X220/230 had a simplified design (e.g. clickpad, no lid latch, fewer blinkenlights) compared to the X200/201. These FrankenPad mods are typically for die hard classic ThinkPad fans.