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Stack Overflow is no longer relevant. Today, you can just ask Gemini, Claude, or ChatGPT instead, and you don’t have to deal with the usual condescension.
by John7878781 11mo ago
Stack Overflow is no longer relevant. Today, you can just ask Gemini, Claude, or ChatGPT instead, and you don’t have to deal with the usual condescension.
- torben-friis 11mo agoHow much of that LLM output is the result of adding SO’s content to the pot? And if usage declines, what will be feed future LLMs with?
- arbol 11mo agoSO is probably a very significant factor in the success of LLMs but it's decline will not affect LLM development. LLMs will simply be trained on the conversations people are having with them.
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- torben-friis 11mo agoI either misunderstand or disagree with that idea: People go to the llm to request help. How is that conversation going to be a good source to increase future knowledge? No one is going to ChatGPT to explain to it how they solved a problem.
- Philpax 11mo agoUnlikely to happen with conversations, yes, but very likely to happen implicitly as part of work with coding agents. Successful agent trajectories will be used to learn what works and what doesn't for a given API.
- arbol 11mo agoChatgpt can identify when it's solution has helped you solve the problem and use those conversations to train on
- kruuuder 11mo agoBlog posts and GitHub discussions come to my mind. That's where I often find answers to my questions and where I contribute.
- Etheryte 11mo agoI can see where you might get that sentiment, but where do you plan to go when new tech rolls around, the docs don't cut it and your LLM of choice hallucinates APIs that don't exist? This was always Stackoverflow's bread and butter, and people who only use it as noob search tend to miss that fact. SO can be a tough crowd, yes, but mostly it's people who didn't read the rules before posting who get burnt. That aside, it still has a very high concentration of experts that you'll struggle to find anywhere else.
- arbol 11mo agoLLM clients like chatgpt can scrape the code of new tech on demand. They tend not to hallucinate when you provide fixed inputs like this.
- protocolture 11mo ago>I can see where you might get that sentiment, but where do you plan to go when new tech rolls around, the docs don't cut it and your LLM of choice hallucinates APIs that don't exist? Not Stackoverflow, because all my questions are either ignored or closed, even when extremely detailed and unique.
- LtWorf 11mo ago> even when extremely detailed and unique. or so you claim.
- protocolture 11mo agoWell my last attempt turned out to be a vendor issue. It was officially acknowledged by a vendor support rep. It had to do with their unique method of populating a whitelist with DNS entries, and weird response chain to blocks in that state. I read through the backlog, ensured I had completely exhausted every other avenue (short of 3 more weeks of yelling at one of the involved vendors for information about how they were performing their whitelisting) and had available captures for network and application, full reproducibility steps and details of everything that had been interrogated. I even remember linking similar issues, and explaining how I ruled out their causes. In fact I am still relatively confident that the way mobile browsers were responding to the bug, probably constitutes a bug in itself but honestly, cant be assed to pursue it. When enough time has passed I will probably produce a blog about the issue, so it can be digested by the next iteration of the troubleshooting machine. But I really dont feel compelled to provide further data to the stackoverflow community directly considering their complete lack of response. Even closing it as a duplicate of an existing issue would have been helpful, but it wasn't a duplicate so it was just ignored.
- ndespres 11mo agoGrowing grains is no longer relevant. You can just walk into any supermarket and purchase packaged cereals, breads, and cakes, and you don’t have to deal with operating a tractor, cultivating soil, or sowing seeds.
- blueflow 11mo agoThe equivalent of "growing grains" would be reading the documentation - SO is second-hand knowledge.
- add-sub-mul-div 11mo ago"Ah, the joys of mortgaging your future."
- werdnapk 11mo agoMy niche questions are never answered correctly by AI. I'm led down false rabbit holes. Stack overflow still provides much better answers for me overall.