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> Norway’s $2 trillion wealth fund said on Sunday it would vote for a shareholder proposal > Microsoft management had recommended shareholders voted against th

> Norway’s $2 trillion wealth fund said on Sunday it would vote for a shareholder proposal > Microsoft management had recommended shareholders voted against the motion. Ok, cool, but what about the reasons for those actions? What kind of lazy journalism is this? I guess it's nice that we know that something is happening, but what about reaching out to people and asking them why so people can actually understand? For the love of Adam Smith, at least mention the involved countries!

NickC25 1y ago
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- outside1234 1y ago
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  - gbear605 1y ago
    It’s because Israel isn’t relevant here, it’s Saudi Arabia
    - kachapopopow 1y ago
      ok I actually wanted to look up what antisematism actually means since the only context I've seen it is israel, so I looked up what sematism is which lead me to one who has sematic qualities which is: Semitic of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic Saudi Arabia is arabic so technically they're correct?
      - School-Cotton 1y ago
        "semitic" has this broader meaning, yes, but the specific term "antisemitism" is only used to refer to Jews, not to Arabs (or, for that matter, Amharic-speaking Ethiopians). It also doesn't specifically refer to the State of Israel, but to Jews everywhere.
        brazukadev 1y ago
        As "anti-islasmism" is just business as usual for the west, no new words were needed.
        School-Cotton 1y ago
        "Islamophobia" is in fact a widely-used English word. (But it doesn't quite mean the same thing as "prejudice against Arabs", since "Muslims" and "Arabs" are different sets).
        brendoelfrendo 1y ago
        As a sibling commenter noted, Islamophobia is probably the common word used in US media for this concept. Islamism, by contrast, is typically used in the English-speaking world to refer specifically to the ideological movements that hold that Islam should be the basis of political systems (that is, establishing explicitly Islamic states; implementing Sharia as the basis of state legal systems; etc). So anti-Islamism, then, would carry a different meaning than Islamophobia or anti-Islamic or anti-Arab sentiment more generally.
      - breppp 1y ago
        Similar to other racial categories these do not have a real link to reality, and are mostly artifacts of how racist tried to link these to something tangible (Think how White is applied to a specific subset of people with pale skin)
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kps 1y ago
https://collaborate.unpri.org/group/35676/stream https://collaborate.unpri.org/group/35676/stream Saudi Arabia
- embedding-shape 1y ago
  Thank you for providing actual source! Ever thought of creating and running an alternative to CNBC? Funny how most of the comments in this submission assumes it's about Israel, telling in more ways than one. This is why reporting has to be accurate :)
  - grafmax 1y ago
    Yeah it does seem there’s some confusion. Here is the similar proposal referencing Israel from earlier this year (perhaps a source of some of the confusion): https://collaborate.unpri.org/group/35681/home https://collaborate.unpri.org/group/35681/home
- 4ndrewl 1y ago
  "things happen"
- aunty_helen 1y ago
  Some more context, KSA is spending up large, think 100s of projects a week, for their vision 2030 where they will have spent 100b on software systems and AI. These are govt contracts and a lot of them have strict data sovereignty restrictions. Google has a big data center there for the exact reason to mop up this work. They also have an AI lab there.
tdeck 1y ago
I think this kind of article is written by a bot these days.
aunty_helen 1y ago
Boards will always recommend to vote against shareholder proposals by default. 1000:1 Having a large shareholder indicate they will go with a shareholder proposal is the newsworthy part. It indicates there’s something that should be being addresssed by the board which isn’t already, which is publicly embarrassing for them. I helped build a system that would estimate the vote for these large institutional investors because if a board tables a vote and a institutional investor votes against it, it’s a really bad look.
renewiltord 1y ago
Ask for a refund lol

NickC25 1y ago

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outside1234 1y ago
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- gbear605 1y ago
  It’s because Israel isn’t relevant here, it’s Saudi Arabia
  - kachapopopow 1y ago
    ok I actually wanted to look up what antisematism actually means since the only context I've seen it is israel, so I looked up what sematism is which lead me to one who has sematic qualities which is: Semitic of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic Saudi Arabia is arabic so technically they're correct?
    - School-Cotton 1y ago
      "semitic" has this broader meaning, yes, but the specific term "antisemitism" is only used to refer to Jews, not to Arabs (or, for that matter, Amharic-speaking Ethiopians). It also doesn't specifically refer to the State of Israel, but to Jews everywhere.
      - brazukadev 1y ago
        As "anti-islasmism" is just business as usual for the west, no new words were needed.
        School-Cotton 1y ago
        "Islamophobia" is in fact a widely-used English word. (But it doesn't quite mean the same thing as "prejudice against Arabs", since "Muslims" and "Arabs" are different sets).
        brendoelfrendo 1y ago
        As a sibling commenter noted, Islamophobia is probably the common word used in US media for this concept. Islamism, by contrast, is typically used in the English-speaking world to refer specifically to the ideological movements that hold that Islam should be the basis of political systems (that is, establishing explicitly Islamic states; implementing Sharia as the basis of state legal systems; etc). So anti-Islamism, then, would carry a different meaning than Islamophobia or anti-Islamic or anti-Arab sentiment more generally.
    - breppp 1y ago
      Similar to other racial categories these do not have a real link to reality, and are mostly artifacts of how racist tried to link these to something tangible (Think how White is applied to a specific subset of people with pale skin)
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kps 1y ago

https://collaborate.unpri.org/group/35676/stream https://collaborate.unpri.org/group/35676/stream Saudi Arabia

embedding-shape 1y ago
Thank you for providing actual source! Ever thought of creating and running an alternative to CNBC? Funny how most of the comments in this submission assumes it's about Israel, telling in more ways than one. This is why reporting has to be accurate :)
- grafmax 1y ago
  Yeah it does seem there’s some confusion. Here is the similar proposal referencing Israel from earlier this year (perhaps a source of some of the confusion): https://collaborate.unpri.org/group/35681/home https://collaborate.unpri.org/group/35681/home
4ndrewl 1y ago
"things happen"
aunty_helen 1y ago
Some more context, KSA is spending up large, think 100s of projects a week, for their vision 2030 where they will have spent 100b on software systems and AI. These are govt contracts and a lot of them have strict data sovereignty restrictions. Google has a big data center there for the exact reason to mop up this work. They also have an AI lab there.

tdeck 1y ago

I think this kind of article is written by a bot these days.

aunty_helen 1y ago

Boards will always recommend to vote against shareholder proposals by default. 1000:1 Having a large shareholder indicate they will go with a shareholder proposal is the newsworthy part. It indicates there’s something that should be being addresssed by the board which isn’t already, which is publicly embarrassing for them. I helped build a system that would estimate the vote for these large institutional investors because if a board tables a vote and a institutional investor votes against it, it’s a really bad look.

renewiltord 1y ago

Ask for a refund lol