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Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action? Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here are screenshots of the user editing comment

by nusl 11mo ago

Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action? Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here are screenshots of the user editing comments to insult/make them say something they never did; https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1 https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1 https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.com/zigbook/zigbook/pull/45 https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.co... The tool itself claims "Zero AI" (https://www.zigbook.net/ https://www.zigbook.net/) yet is very obviously A-Lot-AI.

mcintyre1994 11mo ago
I find GitHub to be very prompt and responsive to abuse reports, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was them if people reported the comments etc.
Meneth 11mo ago
The only public repo remaining under their github account is this VSCode-Copilot integration tool (https://github.com/zigbook/pilot https://github.com/zigbook/pilot).
- Zambyte 11mo ago
  It seems their whole account is gone now.
NoteyComplexity 11mo ago
The responds and edits are simply unprofessional and immature. I don't hate AI and in fact I use it for many research based tasks, helping me narrowing a lot of tough topics, but it is the People with these kind of attitude turns me off.
- nusl 11mo ago
  AI use is fine, though pretending you haven't used it when you obviously did rubs me the wrong way. I get why GitHub allows editing comments of other users though for public repos I guess it allows for this kind of abuse
  - NoteyComplexity 11mo ago
    Exactly, being dishonest is the real problem here. Luckily, every edits are recorded in history, so they can't really hide their abusive behavior, for now. Even if they did, seem like there are often people faster in archiving their posts than they hiding their post.
- cardanome 11mo ago
  I don't mid the immature part, they are hate fueled. The ableism is disgusting.
  - NoteyComplexity 11mo ago
    Just knew what ableism is, but I don't think that is one but the more classic things bullies trying to downplay others by calling other idiots or autistic. Either way, ableism or simply abusive behavior, both lacks respect, honestly and responsibility, which is a sign of immature behavior. Mature people can be playful, but they know when to act in the correct time, and definitely not in something that lead to a huge PR disaster. Thus, being immature is the root cause of all these bad behaviors, including discrimination.
- andrewflnr 11mo ago
  I think the open abuse of people raising issues with the project is morally worse than the license issues or even lying about AI usage. Fraud is already bad, but someone can do that for reasons other than pure mean-spiritedness. To pull this nonsense, you have to actively take pleasure in making other people feel bad.
arccy 11mo ago
probably user reports to GitHub's moderation team
jonathrg 11mo ago
It's unbelievable to me that Github allows repo admins to edit other people's comments.
- NeckBeardPrince 11mo ago
  What would be a valid reason to allow this? That just seems mind-numbingly stupid.
  - projektfu 11mo ago
    Censoring insults or illegal speech (depending on jurisdiction) would be the main reason I can think of.
    - merlindru 11mo ago
      That also means that some users will be pressured to censor illegal speech no? If you live under e.g. a regime that disallows or discourages criticism, now suddenly the onus is on you to do something about those comments because you have the ability to. If you couldn't edit the comments it's not your fault. Either way I think it's a pretty stupid feature the way it's implemented; it should show the edit more clearly or indicate that the comment has been written by multiple people (like StackOverflow does), especially if edits change more than e.g. 10% of the original comment.
      - projektfu 11mo ago
        It's not my feature, no reason to be angry.
    - matkoniecz 11mo ago
      in such case ability to delete comment would be enough
  - halapro 11mo ago
    This is particularly useful when editing the top-level comment of a popular issue to specify the current status. Or when a peer opened a placeholder issue and you fill it up. Etc. If you actually use GitHub as a social network of sorts, there are many reasons to do edit comments. All the edits are visible anyway. You're on Git-Hub, you can already edit everything you have write access to.
xrd 11mo ago
Did you make up A-Lot-AI? Can I suggest "A-Lott-a-AI"? If you did, this is the greatest thing created in 3 ABC ("After Bullshit ChatGPTification"; ChatGPT launched in 2022.). NB: Since ChatGPT is basically the new Messiah for many, I really think we should now be using dates like 3 ABC or 5 POS. POS stands for "Prior to Overlord Slop/Shit". I suggest we give up AD/BC. But, please, I'm not the messiah! (hopefully you have watched Life of Brian!)
nusl 11mo ago
Follow-up: seems they've been banned
- deleted 11mo ago
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networked 11mo ago
I notice again I haven't internalized how much https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpec... really happens.

by nusl 11mo ago

mcintyre1994 11mo ago

I find GitHub to be very prompt and responsive to abuse reports, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was them if people reported the comments etc.

Meneth 11mo ago

The only public repo remaining under their github account is this VSCode-Copilot integration tool (https://github.com/zigbook/pilot https://github.com/zigbook/pilot).

Zambyte 11mo ago
It seems their whole account is gone now.

NoteyComplexity 11mo ago

The responds and edits are simply unprofessional and immature. I don't hate AI and in fact I use it for many research based tasks, helping me narrowing a lot of tough topics, but it is the People with these kind of attitude turns me off.

nusl 11mo ago
AI use is fine, though pretending you haven't used it when you obviously did rubs me the wrong way. I get why GitHub allows editing comments of other users though for public repos I guess it allows for this kind of abuse
- NoteyComplexity 11mo ago
  Exactly, being dishonest is the real problem here. Luckily, every edits are recorded in history, so they can't really hide their abusive behavior, for now. Even if they did, seem like there are often people faster in archiving their posts than they hiding their post.
cardanome 11mo ago
I don't mid the immature part, they are hate fueled. The ableism is disgusting.
- NoteyComplexity 11mo ago
  Just knew what ableism is, but I don't think that is one but the more classic things bullies trying to downplay others by calling other idiots or autistic. Either way, ableism or simply abusive behavior, both lacks respect, honestly and responsibility, which is a sign of immature behavior. Mature people can be playful, but they know when to act in the correct time, and definitely not in something that lead to a huge PR disaster. Thus, being immature is the root cause of all these bad behaviors, including discrimination.
andrewflnr 11mo ago
I think the open abuse of people raising issues with the project is morally worse than the license issues or even lying about AI usage. Fraud is already bad, but someone can do that for reasons other than pure mean-spiritedness. To pull this nonsense, you have to actively take pleasure in making other people feel bad.

arccy 11mo ago

probably user reports to GitHub's moderation team

jonathrg 11mo ago

It's unbelievable to me that Github allows repo admins to edit other people's comments.

NeckBeardPrince 11mo ago
What would be a valid reason to allow this? That just seems mind-numbingly stupid.
- projektfu 11mo ago
  Censoring insults or illegal speech (depending on jurisdiction) would be the main reason I can think of.
  - merlindru 11mo ago
    That also means that some users will be pressured to censor illegal speech no? If you live under e.g. a regime that disallows or discourages criticism, now suddenly the onus is on you to do something about those comments because you have the ability to. If you couldn't edit the comments it's not your fault. Either way I think it's a pretty stupid feature the way it's implemented; it should show the edit more clearly or indicate that the comment has been written by multiple people (like StackOverflow does), especially if edits change more than e.g. 10% of the original comment.
    - projektfu 11mo ago
      It's not my feature, no reason to be angry.
  - matkoniecz 11mo ago
    in such case ability to delete comment would be enough
- halapro 11mo ago
  This is particularly useful when editing the top-level comment of a popular issue to specify the current status. Or when a peer opened a placeholder issue and you fill it up. Etc. If you actually use GitHub as a social network of sorts, there are many reasons to do edit comments. All the edits are visible anyway. You're on Git-Hub, you can already edit everything you have write access to.

xrd 11mo ago

Did you make up A-Lot-AI? Can I suggest "A-Lott-a-AI"? If you did, this is the greatest thing created in 3 ABC ("After Bullshit ChatGPTification"; ChatGPT launched in 2022.). NB: Since ChatGPT is basically the new Messiah for many, I really think we should now be using dates like 3 ABC or 5 POS. POS stands for "Prior to Overlord Slop/Shit". I suggest we give up AD/BC. But, please, I'm not the messiah! (hopefully you have watched Life of Brian!)

nusl 11mo ago

Follow-up: seems they've been banned

deleted 11mo ago
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networked 11mo ago

I notice again I haven't internalized how much https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpec... really happens.