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Funnily enough the first comment in the article is "oh yeah, if you're in Tesla good fucking luck, their doors fail and the releases are incredibly hard to find

Funnily enough the first comment in the article is "oh yeah, if you're in Tesla good fucking luck, their doors fail and the releases are incredibly hard to find in emergency"

dunham 11mo ago
I didn't find them hard to find (in the front seat). When I first got my car it kept complaining because I instinctively reached for that lever instead of the button. The computer claimed I could break the window if I kept using the manual lever, and I had to figure out where the button was. Not saying the car is great, just that I found the door lever easily. I'd still rather have real controls (and a real sensor) for the wipers and the reliance on software and software updates makes me very nervous. You can't even open the glove box without a voice command or touch screen (as far as I can tell).
- codazoda 11mo ago
  Same. I’ve only ridden in one, but the owner wasn’t super happy when I instinctively pulled the manual lever to open the door.
  - imtringued 11mo ago
    There is no wrong way to open the door. Any suffering on the owner's part is caused by the manufacturer building the car that way. A car like that clearly isn't meant to carry untrained passengers. If the car owner insists on buying an unsuitable car, then that's on the owner. It's no different from buying a two seat sports car as a family of four.
- michaelt 11mo ago
  A better design would be for the 'button' to be a normal lever in the normal location, and the emergency manual release to be triggered by pulling that lever extra hard.
  - dpkirchner 11mo ago
    We could simplify this further!
QuiEgo 11mo ago
The front ones seem easy enough, the rear ones are a lot harder https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2020_2024_modely/en_us/GUID-AAD769C7-88A3-4695-987E-0E00025F64E0.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2020_2024_modely/en_us/GU...
- karlgkk 11mo ago
  The front ones vary and certain models are atrociously designed. If you get in an accident and have a concussion, and adrenaline, add a 10x difficulty factor This is almost certainly what killed those kids in piedmont
- dan353hehe 11mo ago
  whoa. > Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors. How is that even allowed?
  - culi 11mo ago
    I think that's exactly what they recently got sued for. Car caught fire, electrical stopped working (and therefore the doors stopped working) and a teen burned inside
    - conductr 11mo ago
      It's wild how my car won't let me change basic settings while vehicle is in drive (too much menu nav as to be distraction & I've had cars that would only let me edit the navigation destination while in park) yet - this exists as well
      - potato3732842 11mo ago
        You're forgetting the "people who don't care, they just want to be seen looking like they care so they make a bunch of noise" factor. Once you multiply the safety problem by the this factor it all makes sense. A small non-problem that every screeching jerk will be exposed to is a bigger actual problem more likely to get addressed than a potential real problem that will mostly go unnoticed. Also rear doors are kinda optional. They still make 2door 2-row cars. Heck, they made 2-door 2-row SUVs pretty recently. And child safety locks are a thing. So there is an argument to be made there (not that I think it holds up on modern stuff).

Funnily enough the first comment in the article is "oh yeah, if you're in Tesla good fucking luck, their doors fail and the releases are incredibly hard to find in emergency"

dunham 11mo ago

I didn't find them hard to find (in the front seat). When I first got my car it kept complaining because I instinctively reached for that lever instead of the button. The computer claimed I could break the window if I kept using the manual lever, and I had to figure out where the button was. Not saying the car is great, just that I found the door lever easily. I'd still rather have real controls (and a real sensor) for the wipers and the reliance on software and software updates makes me very nervous. You can't even open the glove box without a voice command or touch screen (as far as I can tell).

codazoda 11mo ago
Same. I’ve only ridden in one, but the owner wasn’t super happy when I instinctively pulled the manual lever to open the door.
- imtringued 11mo ago
  There is no wrong way to open the door. Any suffering on the owner's part is caused by the manufacturer building the car that way. A car like that clearly isn't meant to carry untrained passengers. If the car owner insists on buying an unsuitable car, then that's on the owner. It's no different from buying a two seat sports car as a family of four.
michaelt 11mo ago
A better design would be for the 'button' to be a normal lever in the normal location, and the emergency manual release to be triggered by pulling that lever extra hard.
- dpkirchner 11mo ago
  We could simplify this further!

QuiEgo 11mo ago

The front ones seem easy enough, the rear ones are a lot harder https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2020_2024_modely/en_us/GUID-AAD769C7-88A3-4695-987E-0E00025F64E0.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2020_2024_modely/en_us/GU...

karlgkk 11mo ago
The front ones vary and certain models are atrociously designed. If you get in an accident and have a concussion, and adrenaline, add a 10x difficulty factor This is almost certainly what killed those kids in piedmont
dan353hehe 11mo ago
whoa. > Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors. How is that even allowed?
- culi 11mo ago
  I think that's exactly what they recently got sued for. Car caught fire, electrical stopped working (and therefore the doors stopped working) and a teen burned inside
  - conductr 11mo ago
    It's wild how my car won't let me change basic settings while vehicle is in drive (too much menu nav as to be distraction & I've had cars that would only let me edit the navigation destination while in park) yet - this exists as well
    - potato3732842 11mo ago
      You're forgetting the "people who don't care, they just want to be seen looking like they care so they make a bunch of noise" factor. Once you multiply the safety problem by the this factor it all makes sense. A small non-problem that every screeching jerk will be exposed to is a bigger actual problem more likely to get addressed than a potential real problem that will mostly go unnoticed. Also rear doors are kinda optional. They still make 2door 2-row cars. Heck, they made 2-door 2-row SUVs pretty recently. And child safety locks are a thing. So there is an argument to be made there (not that I think it holds up on modern stuff).