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I'm happy to see the move. Codeberg is probably a more stable/long-term solution than SourceHut as the founder is slightly unhinged (but love what he has built)

I'm happy to see the move. Codeberg is probably a more stable/long-term solution than SourceHut as the founder is slightly unhinged (but love what he has built). Honestly, either would have been great choices. More opensource projects should move off GitHub. I moved off it myself.

yoyohello13 10mo ago
I’m pretty sure Drew has stepped away from SourceHut. It’s kind of a bummer SourceHut stuck so stubbornly to mailing list only workflows. Everything else about the platform is great.
- bitbasher 10mo ago
  I believe Drew was taking a "break" from it, but not stepping away in any permanent sense. It's probably better for him to stay involved. I'd like to see him push his idea further. It's great to have options.
  - yoyohello13 10mo ago
    I’m glad they have robust support for email based patching but it’s a hard sell for people getting in to the platform.
- pabs3 10mo ago
  Drew is still working on SourceHut: https://sourcehut.org/blog/2025-11-20-whats-cooking-q4-2025/ https://sourcehut.org/blog/2025-11-20-whats-cooking-q4-2025/
  - yoyohello13 10mo ago
    Thanks. My information was outdated.
- michaelanckaert 10mo ago
  I agree that there is a steep learning curve compared to Github pull requests or Gitlab merge requests, but like many things the steep learning curve actually hides a very powerful tool. A famous example is the Linux Kernel, a project of such a size that simply can not work with the Github/Gitlab model.
  - rs186 10mo ago
    I would use the word "exception" rather than "example". I doubt the next generation of programmers will have any idea what it means to contribute code "by mailing list".
- 59nadir 10mo ago
  I think it's probably a great filter for getting people who are actually interested in contributing. Lowering the bar for contribution hasn't really turned out to be useful in any real sense, in my experience.
gwerbret 10mo ago
> I'm happy to see the move. Codeberg is probably a more stable/long-term solution than SourceHut as the founder is slightly unhinged What's this about?
- LtWorf 10mo ago
  Anyone who has read Drew de vault's blog for some time reaches the same conclusion it seems.
  - ameliaquining 10mo ago
    DeVault's controversial takes are pretty similar to the ones that Kelley expresses in this post, so I don't see much misalignment here.
- dsissitka 10mo ago
  Maybe the incident: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41837782 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41837782 https://dmpwn.info/ https://dmpwn.info/
  - dpatterbee 10mo ago
    I'm confused, the incident is that he wrote a document detailing repeated bad behaviour from a well known community figure? And this is a bad thing? And that second link is really grasping at straws lol
    - deleted 10mo ago
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    - debugnik 10mo ago
      He apparently pretended to not have written it despite its DNS pointing to his servers, and Certificate Transparency logs and Internet Archive all attributing the page to his domain. Compare the top comment thread in the first link above to his reply there: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41838124 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41838124 I generally like Sourcehut and Drew's writing but I just learned about this and I find it disappointing.
xvilka 10mo ago
Biggest problem of SourceHut that should be solved first before mass migration of open source - lack of the organizations that would allow multiple contributors working on the project, especially the project with multiple repositories.
the__alchemist 10mo ago
I am getting fatigued by all of these. I am learning about a new one each time. We have - GitHub - BinCode - GitLab - SourceHut - CodeBerg They all seem to do roughly the same things, but with a different web UI. Competition is great! Especially in response to a big corp that has market share. But... there was value in the centralization of GH.
- tcfhgj 10mo ago
  there is value in interoperability, not in centralization
- bfkwlfkjf 10mo ago
  > They all seem to do roughly the same things Codeberg (Forgejo) is Free software, GitHub isn't. Not everything is about the software features.
- bean469 10mo ago
  Not all of those are free software, though, so comparing them might not be correct

yoyohello13 10mo ago

I’m pretty sure Drew has stepped away from SourceHut. It’s kind of a bummer SourceHut stuck so stubbornly to mailing list only workflows. Everything else about the platform is great.

bitbasher 10mo ago
I believe Drew was taking a "break" from it, but not stepping away in any permanent sense. It's probably better for him to stay involved. I'd like to see him push his idea further. It's great to have options.
- yoyohello13 10mo ago
  I’m glad they have robust support for email based patching but it’s a hard sell for people getting in to the platform.
pabs3 10mo ago
Drew is still working on SourceHut: https://sourcehut.org/blog/2025-11-20-whats-cooking-q4-2025/ https://sourcehut.org/blog/2025-11-20-whats-cooking-q4-2025/
- yoyohello13 10mo ago
  Thanks. My information was outdated.
michaelanckaert 10mo ago
I agree that there is a steep learning curve compared to Github pull requests or Gitlab merge requests, but like many things the steep learning curve actually hides a very powerful tool. A famous example is the Linux Kernel, a project of such a size that simply can not work with the Github/Gitlab model.
- rs186 10mo ago
  I would use the word "exception" rather than "example". I doubt the next generation of programmers will have any idea what it means to contribute code "by mailing list".
59nadir 10mo ago
I think it's probably a great filter for getting people who are actually interested in contributing. Lowering the bar for contribution hasn't really turned out to be useful in any real sense, in my experience.

gwerbret 10mo ago

> I'm happy to see the move. Codeberg is probably a more stable/long-term solution than SourceHut as the founder is slightly unhinged What's this about?

LtWorf 10mo ago
Anyone who has read Drew de vault's blog for some time reaches the same conclusion it seems.
- ameliaquining 10mo ago
  DeVault's controversial takes are pretty similar to the ones that Kelley expresses in this post, so I don't see much misalignment here.
dsissitka 10mo ago
Maybe the incident: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41837782 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41837782 https://dmpwn.info/ https://dmpwn.info/
- dpatterbee 10mo ago
  I'm confused, the incident is that he wrote a document detailing repeated bad behaviour from a well known community figure? And this is a bad thing? And that second link is really grasping at straws lol
  - deleted 10mo ago
    [deleted]
  - debugnik 10mo ago
    He apparently pretended to not have written it despite its DNS pointing to his servers, and Certificate Transparency logs and Internet Archive all attributing the page to his domain. Compare the top comment thread in the first link above to his reply there: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41838124 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41838124 I generally like Sourcehut and Drew's writing but I just learned about this and I find it disappointing.

xvilka 10mo ago

Biggest problem of SourceHut that should be solved first before mass migration of open source - lack of the organizations that would allow multiple contributors working on the project, especially the project with multiple repositories.

the__alchemist 10mo ago

I am getting fatigued by all of these. I am learning about a new one each time. We have - GitHub - BinCode - GitLab - SourceHut - CodeBerg They all seem to do roughly the same things, but with a different web UI. Competition is great! Especially in response to a big corp that has market share. But... there was value in the centralization of GH.

tcfhgj 10mo ago
there is value in interoperability, not in centralization
bfkwlfkjf 10mo ago
> They all seem to do roughly the same things Codeberg (Forgejo) is Free software, GitHub isn't. Not everything is about the software features.
bean469 10mo ago
Not all of those are free software, though, so comparing them might not be correct