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Crews claim Boring Company failed to pay workers and snubbed OSHA concerns
- Cheyana 11mo ago[flagged]
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- drbojingle 11mo agoCome with me And you'll see A world of OSHA violations
- SilverElfin 11mo agoThe response from the Boring Company executive feels like gaslighting. > Buss later clarified that he does not believe The Boring Company has a “common” practice of missing payments to vendors, but rather missed payments happen sometimes during “the normal course of business.” I’m sure this small business owner spent a lot of time and effort trying to get this corrected, but got no cooperation from Boring Company. If Vice President Buss or others want to look trustworthy, they need to explain in a public post-mortem what happened, and how they’ll avoid it going forward, and how they’re making this company whole including for their lost time. > The final straw that caused Shane to pull his crew from the site was when multiple employees reported that a representative of The Boring Company was soliciting them to bail on Shane and work directly for TBC on Monday. And this is just deeply unethical. They’re basically holding a fraudulent business relationship with the purpose of poaching employees, it seems like.
- toss1 11mo agoSo, the Greediest Person In The World [0] also cheats subcontractors and workers out of their pay, and poaches employees — who would have guessed? [0] a far more accurate way to describe those who hoard wealth without helping the people or society who got them there, vs the usual praise as the "richest"
- BDMug 11mo ago[dead]
- exe34 11mo agoI love the comparison with fictional characters that we all agree are evil and overly rich: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidewalt/2012/04/20/billionaires-fictional-15-real-imaginary/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidewalt/2012/04/20/billionai... Somebody worked out that Smaug would be the 14th wealthiest American.
- fakedang 11mo agoJust like the president he looks up to. Maybe that's the American Way? (/s but not really).
- jerlam 11mo agoI believe Twitter (after the Musk purchase) also regularly refused to pay its bills: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/09/musks-unpaid-bills-dozens-of-lawsuits-try-to-force-twitter-aka-x-to-pay-up/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/09/musks-unpaid-bil...
- hamdingers 11mo agoI maintain the belief that Boring Company's purpose, first and foremost, is to confuse and derail (pun intended) local efforts to build real transit. Anything they do happen to build is incidental to that goal, and as such it's unsurprising that actual construction would be a shitshow.
- Qem 11mo agoThey should rebrand Screwing Company.
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- iancmceachern 11mo agoThis is my favorite HN comment of the year. Thank you.
- travoc 11mo agoWhich transit effort did they derail in Nashville? There was nothing on the horizon.
- cowsandmilk 11mo agoThat this is being built instead of “Let’s Move Nashville” is a shame.
- youngtaff 11mo ago> I maintain the belief that Boring Company's purpose, first and foremost, is to confuse and derail (pun intended) local efforts to build real transit. Well that was the purpose of the Hyperloop too
- hamdingers 11mo agoSame strategy at different scales, Boring Company is to local transit what Hyperloop is to regional. The original proposal was squarely aimed at disrupting CAHSR, but existing bureaucratic dysfunction is more than sufficient to prevent anything being built at that scale in the US, so Hyperloop was proven unnecessary and abandoned.
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- neilv 11mo ago> [...] when multiple employees reported that a representative of The Boring Company was soliciting them to bail on Shane and work directly for TBC [...] > [...] noting that many prospective employees won’t work on the project because of Musk’s reputation. It's a sad situation, but great to see workers being smart: knowing who deserves loyalty, and who is not to be trusted.
- ionwake 11mo agoI hate to moan, but in my professional career ( whatever that was) - nothing is more of a red flag than a missed payment
- technojamin 11mo agoI thought those were part of "the normal course of business" (quoting VP of Boring Company).
- Havoc 11mo agoxAI notched up EPA violations for running a mountain of gas turbines illegally Tesla collects a variety of regulatory violations like they're paid for it. SpaceX...OSHA, FAA, EPA Boring company... etc.
- DrewADesign 11mo agoYeah the fines are designed to provide incentive to operate like you value your worker’s and others’ humanity even if you don’t have the humanity to really do it. It’s useful because our business economy mostly incentivizes businesses to treat people like fungible economic units of potential profit and loss. If the business is run by someone more interested in stroking their ego rather than optimizing profit and loss, the whole thing breaks down. Yet another example of the real work not working like an economics thought experiment.
- delichon 11mo agoThere is a high demand for negative reports on any organization affiliated with Elon Musk. It is unsurprising that a robust supply has developed for it. I got paid very slowly by Verizon once, and McKesson another time, but nobody cares. I'm perfectly willing to believe that Musk's companies are worse than usual in this regard, but I'll need something better than plural anecdotes. This isn't a court, and innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply. But neither does guilty until proven innocent.