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As an X11 holdout, my time seems nigh.
by artisin 11mo ago
As an X11 holdout, my time seems nigh.
- deaddodo 11mo agoYou still have XFCE.
- DonHopkins 11mo agoYou're at a fork in the road. Do you chose Y11 or X12?
- lousken 11mo agoDevuan should hopefully keep it for quite some time
- theoldgreybeard 11mo agoThe future is now old man.
- panzi 11mo agoThe future seems buggy and incomplete.
- bboozzoo 11mo agoBut it's coming anyway, whether people like it or not. FWIW, it is my understanding that XWayland is still supported, so it's not like your apps will stop working.
- panzi 11mo agoMy problems with Wayland are KDE specific. I tired it, but there where so many window management regressions and sometimes graphical glitches that I switched back. But that was under plasma 6.4. Have to try again now on 6.5 to see if these issues are fixed. If not I should write a bug report, I guess. Also there needs to be an alternative for (or patch to) simplescreenrecorder that works under Wayland. I don't want use a complex thing like OBS to make a quick demo video to demonstrate something for a co-worker and stuff.
- 0134340 11mo agoI'm not sure about SSR currently but Kooha and KDE's own Spectacle work on Wayland fine. I'm running Plasma 6.5 on Arch and very pleased with it.
- panzi 11mo agoDidn't know Spectacle can do screen recordings now. Just tried it: The "New Recording" button seems to be broken. It does nothing. No error message on the terminal even. Maybe it only works under Wayland?
- IshKebab 10mo agoYeah same here. Kind of shitty. OBS Studio still works fortunately.
- yjftsjthsd-h 11mo ago> FWIW, it is my understanding that XWayland is still supported, so it's not like your apps will stop working. Applications generally work through XWayland. Accessibility and automation tools do not.
- theoldgreybeard 11mo agoThat seems to be the mood du-jour - see also: rust coreutils in Ubuntu.
- panzi 11mo agoPersonally I like Rust, but I'm against rewriting old well tested tools in Rust just because. There is this opinion out there that Rust devs rewrite everything for no good reason, but I only really saw that happening in coreutils and sudo. In the other cases that I heard of the rewrite wasn't from C/C++ (but e.g. from JavaScript and they need more speed) or they needed a rewrite anyway for different reasons (e.g. first working parallel style calculation in Firefox). So I'm very skeptical of the coreutils rewrite. In the current state it's incomplete, slower (not optimized), and replacing all GPL code with MIT/BSD code also feels strange to me.
- mx7zysuj4xew 11mo agoWhy do you think it's acceptable to insult someone when they have a legitimate concern regarding a software defect?
- theoldgreybeard 11mo agoOops...I dropped this /s Just so I'm clear: I still think it's too early to drop X11 support (even though Wayland has been basically fine for me for a long time).
- MyOutfitIsVague 11mo agoFor the record, it's a Malcolm in the Middle reference: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CzBi5tIfzK4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=CzBi5tIfzK4
- k4rli 11mo agoWayland+sway switch from x11+i3 is so simple and works so well. Only minor annoying thing not working for me are right-click context menus on some applets like Blueman and Steam.
- layer8 11mo agoOne’s minor annoyance is someone else’s dealbreaker.
- quibono 11mo agoWith a tiny tiny caveat of wanting to run Nvidia drivers instead of nouveau.
- bigyabai 11mo agoNvidia's official drivers have supported Wayland quite well since the 550-series. If you haven't tried it in a few years, now is a great time to give it a spin.
- Jach 11mo agoWake me up when MATE drops X11 support. I don't see it happening any time soon.