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Kagi Hub Belgrade
- kurtis_reed 10mo agoBizarre
- 42365767567 10mo agoYep. Get a smaller office, cut the subscription cost.
- sensanaty 10mo agoConsidering it's Serbia, I doubt the office costs that much to lease for them :P Interesting choice for sure though, would be far from my first choice (as a Serb myself)
- krastanov 10mo agoIsn't 250 square meters already pretty small for a company of their size? That is a small McMansion, and in Serbia the rent is probably 1k$ per month.
- kilroy123 10mo agoMy first thought too.
- Aldipower 10mo agoI am not a Kagi user, but I really like this idea. Cool.
- orta 10mo agoThis is a cool idea, I really enjoyed crashing at other companies offices for short periods - glad to see a company systematising that
- boriskourt 10mo agoI like the idea of being more physical, I wonder how it will work in practice. But would love to visit and see. Great products don’t happen in isolation. They are shaped by the people who use them. That’s what this space is for: a place where Kagi users and our team members can share feedback, ideas, and a cup of coffee in person. Kagi Hub is an extension of our mission to humanize the web, creating an offline space where people who care about a better internet can meet.
- isodev 10mo ago[flagged]
- gostsamo 10mo agoThe founder's name sounds serbian so this might be the reason. The fact that the serbian government is fucked up, doesn't mean that good things cannot happen there.
- floppyd 10mo agoWhile Serbia obviously has a lot of problems, comparing a country that protests almost weekly to North Korea is extremely entitled.
- frereubu 10mo agoYeah, I think I generally agree with the sentiment about the Serbian government but the hyperbole really ruins the argument.
- speed_spread 10mo agoSometimes you gotta invest in the future that you want. It's hard to see North Korea becoming something else contrarily to Belgrade.
- isodev 10mo agoPerhaps, I don't question their motives but as a user, I care very deeply exactly who and where gets to process all my searches for example. Now that they have a browser too - accessing literally everything about my life... It's 2025, we don't have to wait to know they will get enschittified as natural part of their growth process.
- gostsamo 10mo agoI dropped some accessibility suggestions to Kagi couple of years ago. Should try the product again. Don't know if visiting the office is worth it, but visiting Belgrade is in my bucket list and remote working from there might be fun. Honestly, I agree that this is a strange thing to focus on for them, but might be an interesting experience for me.
- joshstrange 10mo agoKagi user, personally I don’t care what they spend my subscription money on as long as they provide a good service (which they do). That said, Kagi has to be the poster child for not staying in their lane. I mean that mostly as, they keep going off and trying random things and I worry it will distract them from the core product(s). This rings of the whole t-shirt factory thing all over again. Get an office, that’s fine I guess if you will use it but the coworking aspect is just odd.
- tokai 10mo agoThe t-shirt debacle made me put off subscribing for good. I felt petty back then, but feel like it was the right decision now.
- scosman 10mo agoDebacle? They gave away some t shirts to paying customers. It probably had decent returns on both marketing and loyalty.
- wonger_ 10mo agohttps://blog.kagi.com/celebrating-20k https://blog.kagi.com/celebrating-20k > The process from here involves setting up a business entity in Germany, so we can import the t-shirts, store them in a warehouse, connect inventory logistics and ship them all over the world. This includes building a website and connecting it to a back-end database. So, we basically ended up owning a merch production operation end-to-end, just so that we could ensure premium quality of these t-shirts! > Now, you may ask, why did we go through all this trouble and allocate nearly a third of our investor-raised funds to produce and freely distribute 20,000 t-shirts?
- j_w 10mo ago> > Now, you may ask, why did we go through all this trouble and allocate nearly a third of our investor-raised funds to produce and freely distribute 20,000 t-shirts? Marketing.
- rosstex 10mo agoAwesome, and Belgrade is a cool city
- KomoD 10mo agoAmerican company with a fully remote team opening an office in Belgrade? This just feels like such a waste of money. Kagi only has ~61k members, I have a feeling this won't get used much, most probably won't ever visit Serbia.
- sensanaty 10mo agoIf they even had any Serb users to begin with I'd genuinely be amazed. Also (I'm a Serb, I'm allowed to hate on my own country don't worry) who the fuck visits Serbia, much less to visit some random search engine's office?
- prmoustache 10mo agoThey mention their founder is Serb and they have employees in Belgrade. Maybe they know some of their employees are already renting a coworking space in Belgrade and would be happy to work together in the same space. It can be seen as a combination of benefits given to employees (motivation boost) + marketing.
- heeton 10mo agoRandom data point: I'm in the UK and have visited Serbia twice for Skiing and time in Belgrade. It was a cool place.
- barbazoo 10mo agoI’ve visited Serbia and also Belgrade and I had a great time there. Lovely people, great food.
- dccoolgai 10mo agoCan't keep Slivovitz a secret forever and Kala Megdan is one of the most amazing experiences in Europe.
- freediver 10mo agoYou know what you are talking about :)
- maelito 10mo agoI cancelled my Kagi account following the positions taken by the company on Yandex issue. Did things change ? I'm not saying the opening of an HQ in Serbia is linked. It's obvious this is linked to the founder's origins and that's OK. Just wondering if I should reconsider my subscription to this great product. (Serbia's facing risks of petrol shortage because of Russia's war, just saw this in the news)
- darkamaul 10mo agoFor interested readers, here is the CEO (Vlad) answer to the ties between Kagi and Yandex (November 2024): https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19 https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...
- __alexs 10mo ago> The job of a search engine is to produce the most relevant search results, period. Unclear how all the random side projects align with this goal tbh.
- Tadpole9181 10mo agoOr how using what amounts to a state-owned search engine - when that state is a corrupt, censorship-heavy authoritarian state dedicated to the conquer of their sovereign neighbor states - is helping toward "the best results". Outside of the "funding invaders" issue, of course it's results will be skewed. Especially if he simultaneously claims it's hardly used and only represents 2% of costs. If it's so infrequently used, why so resistant to offering a toggle?
- keiferski 10mo agoThis is a really cool idea and definitely encourages me to use Kagi, which I’ve never tried before. Belgrade is an awesome city, absolutely worth a trip (while working at their hub.) The business model reminds me a bit of Revolut, which comes with some various benefits like one day a month at a WeWork. It’s not the primary business but it makes me feel like more of a “member” and less just a bank customer. The people claiming that Kagi should stay in their lane don’t understand the dynamics of being a niche business with a massively more successful competitor. Technical power users aren’t going to keep you alive, building a club-like feeling while also having a solid product will.
- KomoD 10mo ago> The business model reminds me a bit of Revolut, which comes with some various benefits like one day a month at a WeWork. It’s not the primary business but it makes me feel like more of a “member” and less just a bank customer. It doesn't come with those benefits, you're paying more to get them. It's just banking + random subscriptions bundles basically.
- keiferski 10mo agoNot really, because the fee I'm paying is comparable to any other bank that offers the features Revolut's (banking) services offer. And if I wanted a day pass at a WeWork, it costs ±$20, which is already $10-15 more than what I'm paying for the entire Revolut account.
- CapmCrackaWaka 10mo agoKagi sure does keep me on my toes. I love it. I won't be using this at all, but I appreciate it exists. If you opened one on the East Coast I could see myself visiting. To all those calling this bizarre - I agree, BUT I also think Kagi is in the perfect position to do weird stuff like this. Their products are high impact but, to be blunt, easy to ditch. If the company gets too weird for me I can just effortlessly use a different search engine / browser. So, I encourage them to try weird stuff while they are small and have a small footprint. I love the idea that a company is doing stuff like this.
- gilrain 10mo ago> If the company gets too weird for me I can just effortlessly use a different search engine / browser. So, I encourage them to try weird stuff while they are small and have a small footprint. I actually don’t think there’s a search engine or browser to switch to with the same values. That’s why I and others get dismayed when the best, the only, option for paid search wastes its time and talent on boondoggles.
- Yizahi 10mo ago[flagged]
- gear54rus 10mo agoCompanies are trying to weasel out of sanctions that target common people and arbitrary kafkaesque visa rules. Shocker, I know.
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- jimbohn 10mo agoYou'd surely be shocked learning what those common people are doing in some parts of the world, like Ukraine :)
- gear54rus 10mo agoI thought 'those' common people decided to stop sponsoring the war by leaving. But surely one can see how adding more idiotic rules and roadblocks for them just might make staying a more attractive option :)
- jimbohn 10mo agoI am sure most russians leaving have left because they are against imperialist expansion and would prefer a free Ukraine, not because they have realized they might have more skin in the game once the 3-days special operation has failed.
- hofrogs 10mo agoIt should be easy to imagine that the russians committing war crimes in Ukraine and the russians fleeing conscription/political persecution for opposing the state by moving to the few countries that would take them are not the same group of people
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- __alexs 10mo agoGlad I stopped subscribing to this pro-Russia company that keeps wasting my subscription on things other than making a good search engine.
- barbazoo 10mo agoWhat’s your alternative?
- ochronus 10mo agoWow, this is awesome :) Love this team.
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- b__d 10mo agoIf I ever would be allowed to work outside my country (no possible due to legal / insurance policies) I would definitely make use of this :)