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I hope they invest some time in macOS, gosh it's become a right mess over the last 3-5 major releases - Tahoe is the worst of the bunch.
by smcleod 11mo ago
I hope they invest some time in macOS, gosh it's become a right mess over the last 3-5 major releases - Tahoe is the worst of the bunch.
- brikym 11mo agoI'm still calling it liquid ass. The glass theme just makes things difficult to read for the sake of fashion.
- Hamuko 11mo agoTahoe is okay to use if you just use the Reduce Transparency accessibility option. The buttons in Finder still look ridiculous though. Fisher-Price tier design.
- _the_inflator 11mo agoIt is a gimmick, not anything users as a spectrum might find favorable. And the sad thing is, that Apple is the only one with such a laughing stock of UX/UI. I am totally annoyed by the animations in Apple Notes. The icons have considerable increased in size and everything screams what a mess to me: the shadow as part of "the experience", partly rounded icons which talk more space than rectangles, hidden functions or multi function menus. There is absolutely no spirit in this update. The animations show no variations, always the same most boring ones (the s curve in Apple Notes). Lately I found die settings menu in Safari especially disastrous, the tab menu icons when pressed look so ridiculous, I lost words.
- roughly 11mo ago> And the sad thing is, that Apple is the only one with such a laughing stock of UX/UI. Oh, give it time. We thought the same when they went flat, too.
- gumby271 11mo agoWe thought the same thing, and they made pretty significant changes to it based on that pushback. Also the flat redesign didn't have basic problems like white text on an white background all while Apple is saying they spent obscene resources on it.
- emchammer 11mo agoMy macOS display system is pushing megapixels and with some good exceptions it feels like many apps have not much more visible information or options than an 80x25 VGA display. This is not to trash VGA displays which were often very well-designed. Some web pages now only show a single paragraph at a time on screen because of cumulative pop-ups, borders, and rounded corners.
- F7F7F7 11mo agoFor those of us who want our mobile devices to just be there when we need it...thank god there are no new animations. I don't need a shot of dopamine every time I open the Mail app. I just want to know that I successfully pressed the icon. Which is what micro interactions (aka small animations) are for. Feedback. I hope the phone get's even more boring and uninspired next go around. Apple can afford to go back to the 'it just works' motto.
- gessha 11mo agoI walked through a tech store recently and I saw the new iPhones with the liquid gimmick. I opened the camera app on one of their pro phones and it was lagging. I was shocked, I found it mind-boggling. Brand new phone, up to date OS, marketing material BS and for it to lag just feels unprofessional. I’d understand it if it was a Pinephone or whatever but from Apple? My expectations are reaching lower and lower depths.
- rocketvole 11mo agoI've noticed the same thing- I thought it was just me. a 17 pro's animations felt less smooth than on my 15 pro with ios 18.
- seec 11mo agoImagine what macOS is on an Intel Mac nowadays without dedicated GPU. Not the latest version either. I'm pretty sure they do it on purpose with their Metal APIs. There is no reason the same computer can become laggy doing the same exact things a few years later because of simple OS updates that adds very little actual functionality. My mother use an old Mac Mini that is stuck on an updates from eons ago. It is slow as fuck, even though the softwares have barely changed since it was first used. She'll buy a new Mac because that's what she is used to. But I feel like a pretty bad deal considering where Apple is going. People always rave about how long Apple computers last. I bought my first personal Mac in 2004 and I have to hard disagree. They last only if you buy the most expensive model and even then it still is going to be a miserable experience towards the end. Meanwhile, cheapo Windows PC get 10 years OS support, mostly trouble free. Reality distortion field is massive indeed.
- firecall 11mo ago> And the sad thing is, that Apple is the only one with such a laughing stock of UX/UI. I'm not defending Apple here, but have you seen how people feel about Windows 11? I don't mind the Liquid Glass UI so much as what's happened to the macOS UX :-/
- jerlam 11mo agoDon't forget Windows Vista had "Aero"! > The changes introduced by Windows Aero encompassed many elements of the Windows interface, with the introduction of a new visual style with an emphasis on animation, glass, and translucency; interface guidelines for phrasing and tone of instructions and other text in applications were available.
- thiht 11mo agoNo it doesn’t. I’m genuinely sick of people saying Liquid Glass is unreadable just because some designer once said transparency makes things unreadable. This is not true in practice. Liquid Glass is so sparingly used (basically some navigation menus) that it literally doesn’t change a thing.
- candiddevmike 11mo agoI'd bet you money within 5 years Apple will continue following Microsoft (after metro) and try "merging" macOS and iOS together into one OS, most likely iOS.
- 1over137 11mo agoThey are already merged really.
- NaomiLehman 11mo agoThis is a good thing for the software ecosystem
- firecall 11mo agoI'd bet you money they dont!
- vunderba 11mo agoMy Mac M1 is effectively permanently locked to Sonoma, and I have zero intention of upgrading beyond that. I was pretty happy with Monterey, but eventually some apps started requiring Sonoma as the min requirement. :(
- paxys 11mo agoMacs make up 8% of Apple's revenue. That entire product line is basically a hobby compared to iPhone and its ecosystem.
- wiseowise 11mo agoThat's almost 9 billion.
- api 11mo agoThey’re also what everyone uses to build software for the iOS ecosystem.
- gumby271 11mo agoThis defense feels so ridiculous every time I hear it (and it's almost always about Apple). People trot it out about Airpods too. If Apple is too big to care about this product line, we should be enraged, not shrugging or pointing out how successful they are.
- lapcat 11mo agoSo you wouldn't mind taking an 8.5% pay cut? Apple stockholders wouldn't mind an 8.5% drop in the stock price? If Apple dropped the Mac, how many of those former Mac users would also drop the iPhone? (I would.) And of course, Mac is the platform for writing iPhone apps. Indeed, Mac is the platform that Apple engineers use to write the iPhone operating system, which was based on and shares a lot of code with the Mac operating system. The Mac is the lynchpin that holds the entire ecosystem together. It also provides a lot cachet to Apple. Most of the wealthiest and/or influential Apple users are Mac users as well as iPhone users. If Apple can't make a desktop computer anymore, the company's founding product, that would be embarrassing to say the least.
- bdangubic 11mo ago> If Apple dropped the Mac, how many of those former Mac users would also drop the iPhone? (I would.) I would drop every device I have currently (myself and my family) which is too many to admit publicly
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- thiht 11mo agoWhy? I honestly don’t see much of a difference in a day to day basis between Tahoe and whatever the previous version was. Tahoe looks slicker to me, but nothing really impacts how I work