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> ban digital advertisement at a federal level This is what I meant by angry mob pitchfork ideas. This isn’t a real idea, it’s just rage venting. It’s also wr

> ban digital advertisement at a federal level This is what I meant by angry mob pitchfork ideas. This isn’t a real idea, it’s just rage venting. It’s also wrong, as anyone familiar with the problems in pay-to-play social video games for kids, which are not ad supported, can tell you. These platforms have just as many problems if not more, yet advertising has nothing to do with it. I bet you could charge $10/month for Instagram and the same social problems would exist. It’s a silly suggestion.

squigz 1y ago
Banning advertisement seemed to work for smoking. https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/early/2025/01/22/tc-2024-058903 https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/early/2025/01/22/tc-2... Why do you think it would be ineffective here? I'm also curious on how you think we might tackle these issues.
- Aurornis 1y ago
  The parent comment called for banning all advertising, not for banning ads promoting social media platforms. They don’t want anyone to be able to advertise anything. Not even your local contractors trying to advertise their businesses that you want to find, because that’s advertising. The tobacco ad ban isn’t relevant to what was claimed.
  - squigz 1y ago
    > The parent comment called for banning all advertising, not for banning ads promoting social media platforms. This wasn't my reading of it, but it does appear that's what GP meant. I don't agree with that. Even so, if you were interested in having a good faith discussion about solutions here, you might have responded to both interpretations. You may consider this me putting forth the suggestion as an answer to your question, if you must.
dkdcio 1y ago
literally the opposite of a pitchfork idea; quite simple, relatively easy to implement, and immediately effective. incentives from advertising is the underlying issue with the addictive nature of these platforms (and much more)
- Aurornis 1y ago
  > literally the opposite of a pitchfork idea The mere fact that commenters think banning advertising is a simple and realistic idea, without any constitutional road blocks or practical objections, is what I mean when I say these comment sections are just angry bloviating with unrealistic expectations. If you think banning all advertising is “simple” then I don’t know what to say, but there isn’t a real conversation here.
  - dkdcio 1y ago
    so is it a pitchfork idea? I want Mark’s head? or it’s impractical? you’ve changed your apprehension to my idea twice in two comments constitutional roadblock…to banning digital advertisement? please do explain! I didn’t claim it’s easy to get it done in the real world, but it’s not a reactive/vindictive pitchfork idea. it’s really not that hard, if people wanted it we’ve banned plenty of things at the federal level in this country over the years (the hard part is of course people realizing how detrimental digital advertising is) it’s a simple solution that’s very effective. obviously any large-scale change, to fix a large-scale problem, is not “simple” to implement, but it’s also not fucking rocket science on this one mate you’re clearly not having a conversation in good faith. you asked, I answered, I’m done with this
    - Aurornis 1y ago
      I’ve not changed anything, I was asking for realistic suggestions. You’re throwing out unrealistic suggestions. Why stop there? Why not just shut down the whole internet? Simple and effective. Ban cell phones. Simple and effective. These are just silly ways of thinking about the world.
      - 1y ago

squigz 1y ago

Banning advertisement seemed to work for smoking. https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/early/2025/01/22/tc-2024-058903 https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/early/2025/01/22/tc-2... Why do you think it would be ineffective here? I'm also curious on how you think we might tackle these issues.

Aurornis 1y ago
The parent comment called for banning all advertising, not for banning ads promoting social media platforms. They don’t want anyone to be able to advertise anything. Not even your local contractors trying to advertise their businesses that you want to find, because that’s advertising. The tobacco ad ban isn’t relevant to what was claimed.
- squigz 1y ago
  > The parent comment called for banning all advertising, not for banning ads promoting social media platforms. This wasn't my reading of it, but it does appear that's what GP meant. I don't agree with that. Even so, if you were interested in having a good faith discussion about solutions here, you might have responded to both interpretations. You may consider this me putting forth the suggestion as an answer to your question, if you must.

dkdcio 1y ago

literally the opposite of a pitchfork idea; quite simple, relatively easy to implement, and immediately effective. incentives from advertising is the underlying issue with the addictive nature of these platforms (and much more)

Aurornis 1y ago
> literally the opposite of a pitchfork idea The mere fact that commenters think banning advertising is a simple and realistic idea, without any constitutional road blocks or practical objections, is what I mean when I say these comment sections are just angry bloviating with unrealistic expectations. If you think banning all advertising is “simple” then I don’t know what to say, but there isn’t a real conversation here.
- dkdcio 1y ago
  so is it a pitchfork idea? I want Mark’s head? or it’s impractical? you’ve changed your apprehension to my idea twice in two comments constitutional roadblock…to banning digital advertisement? please do explain! I didn’t claim it’s easy to get it done in the real world, but it’s not a reactive/vindictive pitchfork idea. it’s really not that hard, if people wanted it we’ve banned plenty of things at the federal level in this country over the years (the hard part is of course people realizing how detrimental digital advertising is) it’s a simple solution that’s very effective. obviously any large-scale change, to fix a large-scale problem, is not “simple” to implement, but it’s also not fucking rocket science on this one mate you’re clearly not having a conversation in good faith. you asked, I answered, I’m done with this
  - Aurornis 1y ago
    I’ve not changed anything, I was asking for realistic suggestions. You’re throwing out unrealistic suggestions. Why stop there? Why not just shut down the whole internet? Simple and effective. Ban cell phones. Simple and effective. These are just silly ways of thinking about the world.
    - 1y ago