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> Does this have some significance for back propagation or something You're right! What could darn possibly matter these days, in the whole entirety of the re

by ur-whale 11mo ago

> Does this have some significance for back propagation or something You're right! What could darn possibly matter these days, in the whole entirety of the realm Mathematics, if it does now somehow have a measurable impact on backprop ?

WhyOhWhyQ 11mo ago
This guy's kid hits a homerun in the little league game and he bemoans that the kid is wasting his talents not working on backprop.
noduerme 11mo ago
Sigh. You're making the wrong assumption about why I asked the question.
- Dylan16807 11mo ago
  Asking because you think everyone else is so focused on AI that "high level of interest" implies AI is just as bad, probably worse.
  - noduerme 11mo ago
    I'm not saying otherwise. I'm a bit tired of the subject dominating the front page (and every industry conversation, and the news). Ten years ago, I would have asked with some suspicion "does this relate to blockchain?" Sign of the times. Just as bad as what, personally only being interested in something if it relates to the hot topic of the day? I asked a genuine question, without leaping to any conclusions about the OP. Seems everyone leapt to the conclusion about me which I refrained from.
    - Dylan16807 11mo ago
      Well I'm not leaping to conclusions, I'm going on the reason you said you asked. > Just as bad as what, personally only being interested in something if it relates to the hot topic of the day? On topics that don't inherently suggest any AI application, asking about AI applications from an AI-cynical perspective is even worse than asking from an AI-hype perspective. They both suck even if they're genuine, and the cynicism pushes it a little bit further.
      - noduerme 11mo ago
        The cynicism is just asking what the underlying motive is [for the interest in this algorithm]. Whatever metric you're using for judging an honest question as "better" or "worse", you didn't answer the question (someone else did), you misinterpreted it, and you still feel the need to judge its validity. Whatever reasons you have for doing so and then trying to turn it into a morality play or a spectacle, as in, how dare you ask if this relates to back propagation? Oh it's even worse than I thought! - all of that calls your motivation into doubt and brings up a whole galaxy of questions as to why you'd find it necessary to attack someone for asking a plain technical question. None of which I care about kmowing the answers to. At school they say: There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. Consider what negative value you have brought to this conversation, without providing any insight whatsoever.
        Dylan16807 11mo ago
        > you didn't answer the question (someone else did), you misinterpreted it > doing so and then trying to turn it Do you have me confused with someone else? I did not reply until after you said why you asked. I didn't misinterpret anything. I'm not trying to do any sneaky redirection. I just think it's bad to bring up AI on non-AI topics! > At school they say: There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. Consider what negative value you have brought to this conversation, without providing any insight whatsoever. You said you dislike the AI dominating the front page, right? You're contributing to that when you ask questions like the above. Questions are usually good but sometimes a question is so off-topic that it detracts from the conversation.

WhyOhWhyQ 11mo ago

This guy's kid hits a homerun in the little league game and he bemoans that the kid is wasting his talents not working on backprop.

noduerme 11mo ago

Sigh. You're making the wrong assumption about why I asked the question.

Dylan16807 11mo ago
Asking because you think everyone else is so focused on AI that "high level of interest" implies AI is just as bad, probably worse.
- noduerme 11mo ago
  I'm not saying otherwise. I'm a bit tired of the subject dominating the front page (and every industry conversation, and the news). Ten years ago, I would have asked with some suspicion "does this relate to blockchain?" Sign of the times. Just as bad as what, personally only being interested in something if it relates to the hot topic of the day? I asked a genuine question, without leaping to any conclusions about the OP. Seems everyone leapt to the conclusion about me which I refrained from.
  - Dylan16807 11mo ago
    Well I'm not leaping to conclusions, I'm going on the reason you said you asked. > Just as bad as what, personally only being interested in something if it relates to the hot topic of the day? On topics that don't inherently suggest any AI application, asking about AI applications from an AI-cynical perspective is even worse than asking from an AI-hype perspective. They both suck even if they're genuine, and the cynicism pushes it a little bit further.
    - noduerme 11mo ago
      The cynicism is just asking what the underlying motive is [for the interest in this algorithm]. Whatever metric you're using for judging an honest question as "better" or "worse", you didn't answer the question (someone else did), you misinterpreted it, and you still feel the need to judge its validity. Whatever reasons you have for doing so and then trying to turn it into a morality play or a spectacle, as in, how dare you ask if this relates to back propagation? Oh it's even worse than I thought! - all of that calls your motivation into doubt and brings up a whole galaxy of questions as to why you'd find it necessary to attack someone for asking a plain technical question. None of which I care about kmowing the answers to. At school they say: There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. Consider what negative value you have brought to this conversation, without providing any insight whatsoever.
      - Dylan16807 11mo ago
        > you didn't answer the question (someone else did), you misinterpreted it > doing so and then trying to turn it Do you have me confused with someone else? I did not reply until after you said why you asked. I didn't misinterpret anything. I'm not trying to do any sneaky redirection. I just think it's bad to bring up AI on non-AI topics! > At school they say: There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. Consider what negative value you have brought to this conversation, without providing any insight whatsoever. You said you dislike the AI dominating the front page, right? You're contributing to that when you ask questions like the above. Questions are usually good but sometimes a question is so off-topic that it detracts from the conversation.