3 ms·

> Never a single one who did it sustainably and never regained weight in 5-10 years. I can name at least a half dozen people I know personally who have done th

> Never a single one who did it sustainably and never regained weight in 5-10 years. I can name at least a half dozen people I know personally who have done this, and my social circle isn’t all that big. But this isn’t the route I’m arguing for. > Masses will always go for the easiest, least-effort option I agree. This is why I made the point about changing the incentives of the people who produce the food, not the people who consume it. We should setup the system so the low-effort option is still a good option. Before all this food science entered our food supply, people were thin and didn’t really know anything about nutrition. They just ate what was in front of them when they were hungry. We shouldn’t have to try hard. The current system requires hyper vigilance to be successful. That’s not what I’m pushing for. If we want the next generation to not need drugs to live, we have to do something about the food supply. The drugs aren’t going to fix the root cause of the problem that makes people need it in the first place. Let’s say you’re right about the current generation, we should still change things so the future generations have a chance.

anovikov 1y ago
I'm sure they will have a chance and drug-based solution does that too. People on Ozempic are not attracted by junk food. Given how many obese people are out there, when Ozempic becomes cheap AND becomes mandatory for overweight people (or they lose health insurance coverage - which makes total sense, or they will look like someone who deliberately wastes insurance companies' money by harming their health on purpose), market for this trash will shrink, and obesity will be denormalised forcing people to keep their food habits in check as fat-shaming will reach epic scale. When there is a sure fix but someone isn't taking it, they will come across as irresponsible, short-term thinking beyond belief, and will surely be rejected by everyone from sex partners to employers, and justifiably so. If someone can fix their health radically and cheaply but won't do it because they just don't care, will they care about me? Will they care about my company? Sure not. It will create enough pressure both of junk food eaters, and on junk food companies (because their market opportunity will be massively squeezed), to solve the problem.

anovikov 1y ago

I'm sure they will have a chance and drug-based solution does that too. People on Ozempic are not attracted by junk food. Given how many obese people are out there, when Ozempic becomes cheap AND becomes mandatory for overweight people (or they lose health insurance coverage - which makes total sense, or they will look like someone who deliberately wastes insurance companies' money by harming their health on purpose), market for this trash will shrink, and obesity will be denormalised forcing people to keep their food habits in check as fat-shaming will reach epic scale. When there is a sure fix but someone isn't taking it, they will come across as irresponsible, short-term thinking beyond belief, and will surely be rejected by everyone from sex partners to employers, and justifiably so. If someone can fix their health radically and cheaply but won't do it because they just don't care, will they care about me? Will they care about my company? Sure not. It will create enough pressure both of junk food eaters, and on junk food companies (because their market opportunity will be massively squeezed), to solve the problem.