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I mean in most other places people have simply realized that unless there is an immediate risk to life, the only thing high speed police chases do is create tha

by stefan_ 11mo ago

I mean in most other places people have simply realized that unless there is an immediate risk to life, the only thing high speed police chases do is create that very risk. Nicely contrasts with all the news about the omnipresent license plate scanners - it's just pointless, don't take the risk, arrest them at your leisure.

TravisLS 11mo ago
Worth noting that many people who run from the police also have fake or stolen plates.
- stefan_ 11mo ago
  I don't get this gotcha. The license plate scanner associates a plate with a location and time, it doesn't care for who drives it. In a chase, you know the plate, you don't know the location. Seems perfect?
  - nradov 11mo ago
    Perfect how? The license plate scanner can only tell that a particular plate number was in a particular place at a particular time. It doesn't know if the plate was fake or stolen, or who was driving the vehicle, or if there was contraband in the vehicle. Stopping fleeing vehicles is one of the most effective ways to catch people with outstanding arrest warrants and get illegal weapons off the streets.
    - lukan 11mo ago
      I think the idea is, if you know where the car is and where it is going, you don't need to chase it openly on high traffic areas with high risk of accidents. You use restraint and take them at a safer place. (surely won't work all the time)
      - nradov 11mo ago
        You don't know where it's going.
- mrtksn 11mo ago
  That shouldn't matter, after all, even if the plate is legit, you can't just find a person's location from the database. They usually have some legal address or something, not live location. So unless there's an immediate danger, there is no reason for chasing people and create dangerous situations. You can just follow them around from the severance cameras and catch them once they are no longer on the move. Even if you don't have disability for one reason or another, it still doesn't make much sense to engage in high-speed driving around people minding their own business.
shoddydoordesk 11mo ago
So your proposal is to just let the criminals run away? And that somehow won't embolden them further? "Once this baby hits 88mph, we're home free!" Air support is used to coordinate with law enforcement up ahead to deploy spikes to end the chase. You are just repeating empty political talking points that simply don't work in the real world.
- bluedino 11mo ago
  A lot of departments terminate chases very early
  - shoddydoordesk 11mo ago
    They could learn a few things from the Georgia State Patrol, the undisputed world champions of the PIT.
- mapt 11mo ago
  Basically, letting them run away and then setting up a raid at their house the next morning is safer for everyone. If you can follow them from altitude well enough to do that, you reduce risk dramatically relative to either interception or chase. > They could learn a few things from the Georgia State Patrol, the undisputed world champions of the PIT. Why not just open up on them with antitank weaponry? PIT maneuvers are extraordinarily dangerous, especially at high speeds.
  - shoddydoordesk 11mo ago
    Buddy, most of these are stolen cars. Do you think they are driving them home and parking it in the driveway? If you are eluding the cops at 100mph you are a danger to the public, they are not going to let you go home. >Why not just open up on them with antitank weaponry? I've heard cops say something similar on body cam footage.
    - netsharc 11mo ago
      If they're eluding cops at 100mph and being a danger to the public, it's because they're being chased by cops... But well, it's America, having the risk of a stray cop bullet hitting you because just like car chases, shootous are inevitable, makes it safer!
sokoloff 11mo ago
In many cases, the driver is not associated with the plates, with the car and/or plates being stolen.
dylan604 11mo ago
John Oliver recently did a segment on police chases https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVFXUkFx5Y8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVFXUkFx5Y8

by stefan_ 11mo ago

TravisLS 11mo ago

Worth noting that many people who run from the police also have fake or stolen plates.

stefan_ 11mo ago
I don't get this gotcha. The license plate scanner associates a plate with a location and time, it doesn't care for who drives it. In a chase, you know the plate, you don't know the location. Seems perfect?
- nradov 11mo ago
  Perfect how? The license plate scanner can only tell that a particular plate number was in a particular place at a particular time. It doesn't know if the plate was fake or stolen, or who was driving the vehicle, or if there was contraband in the vehicle. Stopping fleeing vehicles is one of the most effective ways to catch people with outstanding arrest warrants and get illegal weapons off the streets.
  - lukan 11mo ago
    I think the idea is, if you know where the car is and where it is going, you don't need to chase it openly on high traffic areas with high risk of accidents. You use restraint and take them at a safer place. (surely won't work all the time)
    - nradov 11mo ago
      You don't know where it's going.
mrtksn 11mo ago
That shouldn't matter, after all, even if the plate is legit, you can't just find a person's location from the database. They usually have some legal address or something, not live location. So unless there's an immediate danger, there is no reason for chasing people and create dangerous situations. You can just follow them around from the severance cameras and catch them once they are no longer on the move. Even if you don't have disability for one reason or another, it still doesn't make much sense to engage in high-speed driving around people minding their own business.

shoddydoordesk 11mo ago

So your proposal is to just let the criminals run away? And that somehow won't embolden them further? "Once this baby hits 88mph, we're home free!" Air support is used to coordinate with law enforcement up ahead to deploy spikes to end the chase. You are just repeating empty political talking points that simply don't work in the real world.

bluedino 11mo ago
A lot of departments terminate chases very early
- shoddydoordesk 11mo ago
  They could learn a few things from the Georgia State Patrol, the undisputed world champions of the PIT.
mapt 11mo ago
Basically, letting them run away and then setting up a raid at their house the next morning is safer for everyone. If you can follow them from altitude well enough to do that, you reduce risk dramatically relative to either interception or chase. > They could learn a few things from the Georgia State Patrol, the undisputed world champions of the PIT. Why not just open up on them with antitank weaponry? PIT maneuvers are extraordinarily dangerous, especially at high speeds.
- shoddydoordesk 11mo ago
  Buddy, most of these are stolen cars. Do you think they are driving them home and parking it in the driveway? If you are eluding the cops at 100mph you are a danger to the public, they are not going to let you go home. >Why not just open up on them with antitank weaponry? I've heard cops say something similar on body cam footage.
  - netsharc 11mo ago
    If they're eluding cops at 100mph and being a danger to the public, it's because they're being chased by cops... But well, it's America, having the risk of a stray cop bullet hitting you because just like car chases, shootous are inevitable, makes it safer!

sokoloff 11mo ago

In many cases, the driver is not associated with the plates, with the car and/or plates being stolen.

dylan604 11mo ago

John Oliver recently did a segment on police chases https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVFXUkFx5Y8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVFXUkFx5Y8