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If an average class has 20 students it's $560k per year. If an average student gets 1000 hours of schooling per year you can pay 200$/hour and you have spent on

by bluecalm 11mo ago

If an average class has 20 students it's $560k per year. If an average student gets 1000 hours of schooling per year you can pay 200$/hour and you have spent only just above 1/3 of your budget. It feels like there is more to the story that "$28k doesn't go as far in San Francisco".

triceratops 11mo ago
Very possibly. All I'm saying is you can't just compare dollar figures per student without considering where the dollars are spent.
whoaoweird 11mo ago
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a2tech 11mo ago
It’s because this is a very simplified view of a classroom. What is presented above is the best case scenario, not a realistic one. For example, there’s no consideration of costs associated with any sort of handicapped student, or student with special education needs. Real world costs completely spiral out of control when you look at the actual system—for example, the buildings are all built during the rapid expansion of the country so are now old enough to need expensive maintenance, and there isn’t money or interest from the community to tear them down and build new ones. Also something else that isn’t being covered is that involved parents are pulling their kids out for home schooling, and well behaved kids are increasingly being pulled out and put in charter sschools. This is leading to a rapid collapse of the school system. Public school is being left as a place for students who’s parents don’t care enough to do anything with them, or with enough behavioral or special needs that charter schools won’t handle them.
- michaelt 11mo ago
  > the buildings are all built during the rapid expansion of the country so are now old enough to need expensive maintenance What kind of maintenance do you think is expensive compared to a budget of $560k per room, per year?
- rahimnathwani 11mo ago
  there isn’t money or interest from the community to tear them down and build new ones San Francisco voters have repeatedly voted to borrow massive sums of money to fund SFUSD capital improvements: https://www.sfusd.edu/bond/overview https://www.sfusd.edu/bond/overview The most recent $790,000,000 in 2024.

triceratops 11mo ago

Very possibly. All I'm saying is you can't just compare dollar figures per student without considering where the dollars are spent.

whoaoweird 11mo ago

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a2tech 11mo ago

It’s because this is a very simplified view of a classroom. What is presented above is the best case scenario, not a realistic one. For example, there’s no consideration of costs associated with any sort of handicapped student, or student with special education needs. Real world costs completely spiral out of control when you look at the actual system—for example, the buildings are all built during the rapid expansion of the country so are now old enough to need expensive maintenance, and there isn’t money or interest from the community to tear them down and build new ones. Also something else that isn’t being covered is that involved parents are pulling their kids out for home schooling, and well behaved kids are increasingly being pulled out and put in charter sschools. This is leading to a rapid collapse of the school system. Public school is being left as a place for students who’s parents don’t care enough to do anything with them, or with enough behavioral or special needs that charter schools won’t handle them.

michaelt 11mo ago
> the buildings are all built during the rapid expansion of the country so are now old enough to need expensive maintenance What kind of maintenance do you think is expensive compared to a budget of $560k per room, per year?
rahimnathwani 11mo ago
there isn’t money or interest from the community to tear them down and build new ones San Francisco voters have repeatedly voted to borrow massive sums of money to fund SFUSD capital improvements: https://www.sfusd.edu/bond/overview https://www.sfusd.edu/bond/overview The most recent $790,000,000 in 2024.