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Nah Bach shits on Mozart. Mozart make extremely catchy music like Justin Beiber. I seriously do love mozart, but he merely wrote music. Bach weaved math into hi

by cons0le 11mo ago

Nah Bach shits on Mozart. Mozart make extremely catchy music like Justin Beiber. I seriously do love mozart, but he merely wrote music. Bach weaved math into his music more than anyone before or after. His music sounds dense and more multi dimensional than mozart or saint saens. It really doesn't sound like he was trying to write beautiful music ( even though it is ) , it sounds like he was solving an equation and just writing out the answers as a harmonic sequence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmsNH8t25ck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmsNH8t25ck - This guy is like 95 and still shredding on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1xJoVzoIQg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1xJoVzoIQg

reactordev 11mo ago
See, music isn’t just math, it’s feel. I guess that’s why I dislike him the way I do. It’s too robotic. Truth is, they were ALL Justin Bieber. It’s all pop music of the time.
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- cons0le 11mo ago
  Ahh yes, so robotic https://youtu.be/_1xJoVzoIQg?list=RD_1xJoVzoIQg https://youtu.be/_1xJoVzoIQg?list=RD_1xJoVzoIQg Also they were not all justin beiber. Bach was a working church musician when mozart was out touring europe getting drunk and shitting on women. Only one of them was in it for the fame. In fact you could say that mozart and liszt were 2 of the first "pop stars" because that archetype didn't exist before them. There was basically no "beatlesmania" over bach. He had a steady job, but he didn't die wealthy or famous.
  - cybrox 11mo ago
    Did not expect one of the most unhinged discussions on HN to start over classical music but aight.
    - cons0le 11mo ago
      mozart was truly the R kelly of his time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch
      - reactordev 11mo ago
        Basically the first Disney Channel Child Star…
    - reactordev 11mo ago
      When someone gushes over Bach, I tend to go off. Glad that others are just as knowledgeable as I am in Baroque.
      - vixen99 11mo ago
        Don't give up on him. You may surprise yourself one day.
        reactordev 11mo ago
        I’ve heard everything Bach and still choose to not accept him on the upper shelf.
    - stavros 11mo ago
      I have to say, I enjoyed "Nah Bach shits on Mozart" much more than I should have.
      - lukan 11mo ago
        Is that because there is some more depth to the joke, that Mozart did this for real "when mozart was out touring europe getting drunk and shitting on women" - "shit on women"? So Bach metaphorically shits on Mozart for being the greater composer who was in it for the music and now gets more fame? Because I was rather appalled by that language, but maybe lack background context.
  - tzs 11mo ago
    > Bach was a working church musician when mozart was out touring europe getting drunk and shitting on women Bach died 6 years before Mozart was born.
    - bombcar 11mo ago
      He was still working!! He was just decomposing instead of composing. (Old sixth grade camp joke)
      - throaway123213 11mo ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQOaK8Mv6E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQOaK8Mv6E
  - jawilson2 11mo ago
    I'm sorry, I just can't listen to Bach piano pieces unless Glenn Gould is making strange sounds in the background that the sound engineer can't remove.
- erfgh 11mo ago
  Pop music also existed back then you know.
jancsika 11mo ago
> Mozart make extremely catchy music like Justin Beiber. Mozart was the quintessential "Dark Forest" composer, hiding musical sentience in plain sight of light classical period textures. Here he is with 2 measures of a simple major key "Justin Bieber" clarinet sequence interleaved with 2 measures from the strings that keep modulating to minor keys: https://youtu.be/xdVo0MsJMOc?t=1074 https://youtu.be/xdVo0MsJMOc?t=1074 Keep listening to the section marked "Tutti" in the score for a re-orchestration and reharmonization of that same clarinet sequence, but now in a surprisingly lush, chromatic style similar to Wagner or Brahms. It quickly disappears, too. Similarly, Bach's own output is encoded inside Mozart's. E.g., the coda of the Rondo in A Minor doubles as a two-part invention, complete with invertible counterpoint between left- and right-hand. He also built a nifty hash table that could be used to efficiently generate and stream music over the internet. (Unfortunately, he didn't live long enough to patent and sell it to Yahoo for 6 billion dollars.)

by cons0le 11mo ago

reactordev 11mo ago

See, music isn’t just math, it’s feel. I guess that’s why I dislike him the way I do. It’s too robotic. Truth is, they were ALL Justin Bieber. It’s all pop music of the time.

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cons0le 11mo ago
Ahh yes, so robotic https://youtu.be/_1xJoVzoIQg?list=RD_1xJoVzoIQg https://youtu.be/_1xJoVzoIQg?list=RD_1xJoVzoIQg Also they were not all justin beiber. Bach was a working church musician when mozart was out touring europe getting drunk and shitting on women. Only one of them was in it for the fame. In fact you could say that mozart and liszt were 2 of the first "pop stars" because that archetype didn't exist before them. There was basically no "beatlesmania" over bach. He had a steady job, but he didn't die wealthy or famous.
- cybrox 11mo ago
  Did not expect one of the most unhinged discussions on HN to start over classical music but aight.
  - cons0le 11mo ago
    mozart was truly the R kelly of his time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch
    - reactordev 11mo ago
      Basically the first Disney Channel Child Star…
  - reactordev 11mo ago
    When someone gushes over Bach, I tend to go off. Glad that others are just as knowledgeable as I am in Baroque.
    - vixen99 11mo ago
      Don't give up on him. You may surprise yourself one day.
      - reactordev 11mo ago
        I’ve heard everything Bach and still choose to not accept him on the upper shelf.
  - stavros 11mo ago
    I have to say, I enjoyed "Nah Bach shits on Mozart" much more than I should have.
    - lukan 11mo ago
      Is that because there is some more depth to the joke, that Mozart did this for real "when mozart was out touring europe getting drunk and shitting on women" - "shit on women"? So Bach metaphorically shits on Mozart for being the greater composer who was in it for the music and now gets more fame? Because I was rather appalled by that language, but maybe lack background context.
- tzs 11mo ago
  > Bach was a working church musician when mozart was out touring europe getting drunk and shitting on women Bach died 6 years before Mozart was born.
  - bombcar 11mo ago
    He was still working!! He was just decomposing instead of composing. (Old sixth grade camp joke)
    - throaway123213 11mo ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQOaK8Mv6E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQOaK8Mv6E
- jawilson2 11mo ago
  I'm sorry, I just can't listen to Bach piano pieces unless Glenn Gould is making strange sounds in the background that the sound engineer can't remove.
erfgh 11mo ago
Pop music also existed back then you know.

jancsika 11mo ago

> Mozart make extremely catchy music like Justin Beiber. Mozart was the quintessential "Dark Forest" composer, hiding musical sentience in plain sight of light classical period textures. Here he is with 2 measures of a simple major key "Justin Bieber" clarinet sequence interleaved with 2 measures from the strings that keep modulating to minor keys: https://youtu.be/xdVo0MsJMOc?t=1074 https://youtu.be/xdVo0MsJMOc?t=1074 Keep listening to the section marked "Tutti" in the score for a re-orchestration and reharmonization of that same clarinet sequence, but now in a surprisingly lush, chromatic style similar to Wagner or Brahms. It quickly disappears, too. Similarly, Bach's own output is encoded inside Mozart's. E.g., the coda of the Rondo in A Minor doubles as a two-part invention, complete with invertible counterpoint between left- and right-hand. He also built a nifty hash table that could be used to efficiently generate and stream music over the internet. (Unfortunately, he didn't live long enough to patent and sell it to Yahoo for 6 billion dollars.)