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Ok, let’s not have the is Bluesky decentralised discussion again. Kudos to Bluesky’s PR efforts to use complex technology to basically sell themselves as whatev

by isodev 11mo ago

Ok, let’s not have the is Bluesky decentralised discussion again. Kudos to Bluesky’s PR efforts to use complex technology to basically sell themselves as whatever people want to hear (like NFTs but social media). There are a number of X/Threads clones out there, but I’d take a group chat on some relatively secure messaging platform over “social media” any day. Even better if it’s something I can self host or join into one from many servers (remember IRC? Good times). We really need to rethink this “one corp owns all the keys and all servers” setup.

tradevapp 11mo ago
Yup > highlights the risks associated with the centralization of instant messaging services Any cervices, really
yehoshuapw 11mo ago
so matrix? (which has it's own issues, but will hopefully overcome them eventually)
godelski 11mo ago
> Even better if it’s something I can self host or join into one from many servers (remember IRC? Good times). What's stopping you? Even threads can connect to BlueSky
- lxgr 11mo ago
  > Even threads can connect to BlueSky I thought Threads only interoperates with Mastodon/the fediverse in some limited capacity. Did I miss some Bluesky integration announcement?
  - godelski 11mo ago
    You just need a bridge, as with connecting any decentralized platforms https://fed.brid.gy/ https://fed.brid.gy/
    - lxgr 11mo ago
      That's opt-in, mangles usernames, and on top of that quite a few people on Mastodon seemed allergic to the very idea of bridging/federation the last time I looked into it.
      - godelski 11mo ago
        > That's opt-in So? It's just an example. I'm sure you could do it in a cleaner way. They use different protocols. If you can run your own server and connect with open source tools, it's decentralized. Though of course that doesn't mean a decentralized protocol isn't highly centralized. See email
pfraze 11mo ago
I’m just glad we didn’t have the conversation again

by isodev 11mo ago

tradevapp 11mo ago

Yup > highlights the risks associated with the centralization of instant messaging services Any cervices, really

yehoshuapw 11mo ago

so matrix? (which has it's own issues, but will hopefully overcome them eventually)

godelski 11mo ago

> Even better if it’s something I can self host or join into one from many servers (remember IRC? Good times). What's stopping you? Even threads can connect to BlueSky

lxgr 11mo ago
> Even threads can connect to BlueSky I thought Threads only interoperates with Mastodon/the fediverse in some limited capacity. Did I miss some Bluesky integration announcement?
- godelski 11mo ago
  You just need a bridge, as with connecting any decentralized platforms https://fed.brid.gy/ https://fed.brid.gy/
  - lxgr 11mo ago
    That's opt-in, mangles usernames, and on top of that quite a few people on Mastodon seemed allergic to the very idea of bridging/federation the last time I looked into it.
    - godelski 11mo ago
      > That's opt-in So? It's just an example. I'm sure you could do it in a cleaner way. They use different protocols. If you can run your own server and connect with open source tools, it's decentralized. Though of course that doesn't mean a decentralized protocol isn't highly centralized. See email

pfraze 11mo ago

I’m just glad we didn’t have the conversation again