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How come HN is never down with all these outages?

• meeb 1y ago
  Because HN doesn't use Cloudflare.
  • chistev 1y ago
    Also doesn't use AWS or Azure because it didn't go down with them either.
    • us0r 1y ago
      I thought the same until I started looking: Name Server: NS-225.AWSDNS-28.COM Name Server: NS-1411.AWSDNS-48.ORG Name Server: NS-1914.AWSDNS-47.CO.UK Name Server: NS-556.AWSDNS-05.NET At least for DNS. Data center appears to be Lightedge.
    • Bender 1y ago
      HN sometimes rarely is pointed to AWS when under attack.
  • ardfard 1y ago
    Does HN self-host too?
    • ArcHound 1y ago
      I'd love to read an article describing the HN setup. Seems that they got a lot of things right - self registration, influx of people during outages and plenty others. Admins, if you see this, please write about your craft!
      • Akronymus 1y ago
        I am pretty sure @dang wrote about it on here before, but I can't seem to find it.
        • b2ccb2 1y ago
          Here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28478379 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28478379 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27452276 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27452276
          • ArcHound 1y ago
            Thanks! Seems that's what we'll get as there are apparently serious money which can be made by knowing the guts of HN as per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27454354 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27454354.
        • ArcHound 1y ago
          Seems like so, these submissions from them look related, but not quite it: - [Sorry I broke the server](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9052128 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9052128) - [New attempt at mobile markup](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10489499 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10489499) - [Clickable domains and QoL](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10223645 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10223645) - [New features and a moderator](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12073675 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12073675) - [Thanks to thehodge and littlewarden, this site is up today](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28472350 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28472350) Maybe one day. Seeing all of these big providers stumbling, an article about HN staying on top of everything would surely resonate.
    • dang 1y ago
      Yes, except when we've shot ourselves in both feet: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45750608 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45750608
  • sph 1y ago
    How? It's literally impossible to run a major website these days without Cloudflare. /s This is what you get for being lazy and choosing to making the internet more centralized.
    • Iulioh 1y ago
      Well, to be fair, while recognizing how influential it is, HN is not a major website lol
      • chistev 1y ago
        What counts as major? I estimate they get millions of hits here
• Bender 1y ago
  HN is just one active and one standby server at M5 Computer Security running BSD.
• pmlnr 1y ago
  There are things out there which are running from a bare metal host, without relying on someone else's computer (aka the cloud). HN is one of them.
• duckerduck 1y ago
  They stopped using Cloudflare some time ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18188832 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18188832
• rwaksmunski 1y ago
  FreeBSD on bare metal hooked up to a nice network.
• philipwhiuk 1y ago
  HN is running on the server the rest of the cloud rents time from. The outages are the Roomba.