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Is there a word for that feeling of relief when someone else fucked up after initially thinking it was you?
by Freak_NL 11mo ago
Is there a word for that feeling of relief when someone else fucked up after initially thinking it was you?
- StanAngeloff 11mo agoSchadenfreude
- simonklitj 11mo agoNot quite, that’s more like taking pleasure in the misfortune of someone else. It’s close, but the specific relief bit that it is not _your_ misfortune is not captured
- skottenborg 11mo agoInternettet er vist ikke så stort :-)
- simonklitj 11mo agoFætter! Hvor genialt at se dig her. :)
- gnfargbl 11mo agoNah, that's delight in someone else's misfortune. This is delight that the misfortune wasn't yours, which is slightly different.
- StanAngeloff 11mo ago4 years of German and I still don't quite "get" it :^) TY!
- tagyro 11mo agoWe have a saying: You know how you measure eternity? When you finish learning German.
- namblooc 11mo agoKatastrophenverursachererleichterung
- jpmonette 11mo agophewphoria
- Freak_NL 11mo agoYup, that works.
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- Sholmesy 11mo agoWell, at least something good came out of this incident. Perfect.
- zzzeek 11mo agoit has to sound like a german word though
- datenhorst 11mo agopuhphorie
- puilp0502 11mo agoIs there a word for a feeling that there's gotta be a German word for this niche feeling?
- patneedham 11mo agoProbably Deutschwortsehnsucht (https://www.iamexpat.de/education/education-news/german-words-expats-should-know-sehnsucht https://www.iamexpat.de/education/education-news/german-word...)
- usrusr 11mo agoYou mean like when the Wortzusammensetzungsverdacht just hits you? (yeah, I just made that up, that's the beauty)
- chrisweekly 11mo ago
- shortrounddev2 11mo agoWhen I'm debugging something, I'm not usually looking for the solution to the problem; I'm looking for sufficient evidence that I didn't cause the problem. Once I have that, the velocity at which I work slows down
- sys_64738 11mo agoMy manager once asked if he could have a "quick word". I said "velocity".
- cromka 11mo agovindication?
- jspash 11mo agoThe problem is, I still get the wrong end of the stick when AWS or CF go down! Management doesn't care, understandably. They just want the money to keep coming in. It's hard to convince them that this is a pretty big problem. The only thing that will calm them down a bit is to tell them Twitter is also down. If that doesn't get them, I say ChatGPT is also down. Now NOBODY will get any work done! lol.
- graemep 11mo agoWho decided to go with AWS of CF? If its a management decision tell them you need the resources to have a fallback if they want their system to be more reliable than AWS or CF.
- adriand 11mo agoHaha yeah I just got off the phone and I said, look, either this gets fixed soon or there's going to be news headlines with photographs of giant queues of people milling around in airports.
- aurareturn 11mo agoEvery time a major cloud goes down, management tells us why don't we have a backup service that we can switch to. Then I tell them that a bunch of services worth a lot more than us are also down. Do you really want to spend the insane amount of resources to make sure our service stays up when the global internet is down?
- ec109685 11mo agoHaving an alt to Cloudflare isn’t preposterous.
- hylaride 11mo agoThis is why you ALWAYS have a proposal ready. I literally had my ass saved by having tickets with reliability/redundancy work clearly laid out with comments by out of touch product/people managers deprioritizing the work after attempts to pull it off the backlog (in one infamous case for a notoriously poorly conceived and expensive failure of a project that haunted us again with lost opportunity cost). The hilarious part of the whole story is that the same PMs and product managers were (and I cannot overemphasize this enough) absolutely militant orthodox agile practitioners with jira.
- mcphage 11mo agoMaybe this isn’t great, but I get a hint of that feeling when I’m on an airplane and hear a baby crying. For a number of years, if I heard a baby crying, it was probably my baby and I had to deal with it. But now my kids are past that phase, so when I hear the crying, after that initial jolt of panic I realize that it isn’t my problem, and that does give me the warm fuzzies. Even though I do feel bad for the baby and their parents.
- adriand 11mo agoRelated situation: you're at a family gathering and everyone has young kids running around. You hear a thump, and then some kid starts screaming. Conversation stops and every parent keenly listens to the screams to try and figure out whose kid just got hurt, then some other parent jumps up - it's not your kid! #phewphoria
- RhysU 11mo agoYou're not alone in this feeling. I occasionally smile when it's not my kid.
- hackeraccount 11mo agoThis is one of the secret joys of being a parent.
- spamizbad 11mo agoWhat’s funny is as I get older this feeling of relief turns more like a feeling of dread. The nice thing about problems that you cause is that you have considerable autonomy to fix them. Cloudflare goes down you’re sitting and waiting for a 3 party to fix something.
- mewpmewp2 11mo agoWhy is it dread? I always feel good when big players mess up, as it makes me feel better about my own mess ups in life previously.
- kasey_junk 11mo agoBecause my customers don’t (and shouldn’t care) it’s a third party. If I caused it there is a chance I can fix it.
- mewpmewp2 11mo agoIf customers expected third party downtime to not affect their thing then you shouldn't have picked a third party provider or spent extra resources on not having a single point of failure? If they were happy with choosing the third party with knowledge of depending on said third party provider, then it was an accepted risk.
- _factor 11mo agoSo you would rather be incompetent than powerless? Choice of third party vendor on client facing services is still on you, so maybe you prefer your incompetence be more direct and tangible? Even still, you should have policies in place to mitigate such eventualities, that way you can focus the incompetence into systematic issues instead. The larger the company, the less acceptable these failures become. Lessons learned is a better excuse for a shake and break startup than an established player that can pay to be secure. At some point, the finger has to be pointed. Personally, I don't dread it pointing elsewhere. Just means I've done my due D and C.
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- stonecharioteer 11mo agoIt's close enough to Schadenfreude but not really.
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- bookofjoe 11mo agoThe German word “schadenfreude” means taking pleasure in someone else’s misfortune; enjoyment rather than relief.
- bryanrasmussen 11mo agosince schaden is damage and freude is joy, not sure what it should be - maybe Schadeleichtig hmm...
- tauchunfall 11mo ago>maybe Schadeleichtig Maybe "Erleichterung" (relief)? But as a German "Schadenserleichterung" (also: notice the "s" between both compound word parts) rather sounds like a reduction of damage (since "Erleichterung" also means mitigation or alleviation).
- bryanrasmussen 11mo agoright I thought of that at first and discarded it for that reason. Which the problem really is that the normal story of how Schadenfreude works as a bit of German language how to is that the component that it is other people's damage that is sparking joy is missing from the word itself, that interpretation must be known by the word user, if you were just creating the word and nobody had heard it before in the world it would be pretty reasonable for people to think you had just created a new word for masochism.
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- Rooster61 11mo agoSchadenfriend? You gain relief, but you don't exactly derive pleasure as it's someone you know that's getting the ass end of the deal
- hoistbypetard 11mo agoschadenfuckup