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It's really hard to believe this isn't AI generated, but today I was trying to use the HTTP server from std after the 0.15 changes, couldn't figure out how it's

It's really hard to believe this isn't AI generated, but today I was trying to use the HTTP server from std after the 0.15 changes, couldn't figure out how it's supposed to work until I've searched repos in Github. LLM's couldn't figure it out as well, they were stuck in a loop of changing/breaking things even further until they arrived at the solution of using the deprecated way. so I guess this is actually handwritten which is amazing because it looks like the best resource I've seen up until now for Zig

tredre3 11mo ago
I've had the same experience as you with Zig. I quite love the idea of it Zig but the undocumented churn is a bit much. I wish they had auto generated docs that reflect the current state of the stdlib, at least. Even if it just listed the signatures with no commentary. I was trying to solve a simple problem but Google, the official docs, and LLMs were all out of date. I eventually found what I needed in Zig's commit history, where they casually renamed something without updating the docs. It's been renamed once more apparently, still not reflected in the docs :shrugs:.
- smj-edison 11mo ago
  Wait, doesn't `zig std` launch the autogenerated docs?
  - geophph 11mo ago
    It’s currently broken, or was recently on the 0.16 dev branch (master)
- Aeolun 11mo ago
  But you can tell your LLM to just go look at the source code (after checking it out so it doesn’t try 20s github requests). Always works like a charm for me.
blks 11mo ago
> It's really hard to believe this isn't AI generated Case of a person who is relying on LLMs so much he cannot imagine doing something big by themselves.
- shuraman7 11mo ago
  it's not only the size - it was pushed all at once, anonymously, using text that highly resembles that of an AI. I still think that some of the text is AI generated. perhaps not the code, but the wording of the text just reeks of AI
  - BlackjackCF 11mo ago
    Can you provide some examples where the text reeks of AI?
    - wild_egg 11mo ago
      Literally the heading as soon as you click the submitted link > Learning Zig is not just about adding a language to your resume. It is about fundamentally changing how you think about software. The "it's not X, it's Y" phrasing screams LLM these days
      - ropable 11mo ago
        It's almost as though the LLMs were trained on all the writing conventions which are used by humans and are parroting those, instead of generating novel outputs themselves.
        fifhtbtbf 11mo ago
        They haven’t picked up any one human writing style, they’ve converged on a weird amalgamation of expressions and styles that taken together don’t resemble any real humans writing and begin to feel quite unnatural.

tredre3 11mo ago

I've had the same experience as you with Zig. I quite love the idea of it Zig but the undocumented churn is a bit much. I wish they had auto generated docs that reflect the current state of the stdlib, at least. Even if it just listed the signatures with no commentary. I was trying to solve a simple problem but Google, the official docs, and LLMs were all out of date. I eventually found what I needed in Zig's commit history, where they casually renamed something without updating the docs. It's been renamed once more apparently, still not reflected in the docs :shrugs:.

smj-edison 11mo ago
Wait, doesn't `zig std` launch the autogenerated docs?
- geophph 11mo ago
  It’s currently broken, or was recently on the 0.16 dev branch (master)
Aeolun 11mo ago
But you can tell your LLM to just go look at the source code (after checking it out so it doesn’t try 20s github requests). Always works like a charm for me.

blks 11mo ago

> It's really hard to believe this isn't AI generated Case of a person who is relying on LLMs so much he cannot imagine doing something big by themselves.

shuraman7 11mo ago
it's not only the size - it was pushed all at once, anonymously, using text that highly resembles that of an AI. I still think that some of the text is AI generated. perhaps not the code, but the wording of the text just reeks of AI
- BlackjackCF 11mo ago
  Can you provide some examples where the text reeks of AI?
  - wild_egg 11mo ago
    Literally the heading as soon as you click the submitted link > Learning Zig is not just about adding a language to your resume. It is about fundamentally changing how you think about software. The "it's not X, it's Y" phrasing screams LLM these days
    - ropable 11mo ago
      It's almost as though the LLMs were trained on all the writing conventions which are used by humans and are parroting those, instead of generating novel outputs themselves.
      - fifhtbtbf 11mo ago
        They haven’t picked up any one human writing style, they’ve converged on a weird amalgamation of expressions and styles that taken together don’t resemble any real humans writing and begin to feel quite unnatural.