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Palestinians need an equivalent purging of their unattainable goal of defeating Israel with force.

LightBug1 1y ago
"Equivalent"... So it sounds like we're in agreement that Israel needs a DeNazification-style purge also. I think we're getting somewhere.
- UltraSane 1y ago
  The use of the term Nazi is deeply stupid. But Israel does need to chill a bit and care more about their global PR. But they are surrounded by countries that really DO want to destroy them so I can understand why they are so trigger happy. The way they destroyed Hezbollah was brilliant. The Hamas charter is a giant Islamist Jew-hating rant.
  - api 1y ago
    It’s hard for me not to have a “black pilled” view of this region. They’ll never have peace until they actually want it. There’s too many nuts on every side whose whole purpose for living is to see anyone who isn’t just like them dead. Unfortunately the regular civilian who live in this region suffer for it. The only way out I can see would be some kind of cross border cross culture mass uprising against all the fanatics and those who fund and enable them. It should also serve as a warning for us. We can have peace and prosperity because we have, as a culture, managed to restrain these kinds of impulses. We flirt with hyper polarization and fanatical ideologies at our own peril. Those who promote this stuff for short term political or economic gain should be compared, maybe, to people playing around with dangerous gain of function research on disease organisms. This stuff takes hold and our countries will look like the war zones of the Middle East.
    - UltraSane 1y ago
      People really like to gloss over how deeply rooted Jew hatred is in Islam. The Koran contains blatant hate speech against Jews and this is the primary reason why Muslims resent the existence of Israel so irrationally
      - immibis 1y ago
        It's interesting how this always comes up one way and not the other way around, as if it's asymmetric.
        UltraSane 1y ago
        Because it isn't symmetric at all. Mohamed added all the of hate speech about Jews because they sensibly didn't believe he was a prophet. It is remarkably similar to how L Ron Hubbard taught his followers to hate Psychologists because they rightly called him out for his bullshit.
  - LightBug1 1y ago
    "DeNazification-style"... You really seem to have a comprehension issue. Is it intentional?

"Equivalent"... So it sounds like we're in agreement that Israel needs a DeNazification-style purge also. I think we're getting somewhere.

UltraSane 1y ago
The use of the term Nazi is deeply stupid. But Israel does need to chill a bit and care more about their global PR. But they are surrounded by countries that really DO want to destroy them so I can understand why they are so trigger happy. The way they destroyed Hezbollah was brilliant. The Hamas charter is a giant Islamist Jew-hating rant.
- api 1y ago
  It’s hard for me not to have a “black pilled” view of this region. They’ll never have peace until they actually want it. There’s too many nuts on every side whose whole purpose for living is to see anyone who isn’t just like them dead. Unfortunately the regular civilian who live in this region suffer for it. The only way out I can see would be some kind of cross border cross culture mass uprising against all the fanatics and those who fund and enable them. It should also serve as a warning for us. We can have peace and prosperity because we have, as a culture, managed to restrain these kinds of impulses. We flirt with hyper polarization and fanatical ideologies at our own peril. Those who promote this stuff for short term political or economic gain should be compared, maybe, to people playing around with dangerous gain of function research on disease organisms. This stuff takes hold and our countries will look like the war zones of the Middle East.
  - UltraSane 1y ago
    People really like to gloss over how deeply rooted Jew hatred is in Islam. The Koran contains blatant hate speech against Jews and this is the primary reason why Muslims resent the existence of Israel so irrationally
    - immibis 1y ago
      It's interesting how this always comes up one way and not the other way around, as if it's asymmetric.
      - UltraSane 1y ago
        Because it isn't symmetric at all. Mohamed added all the of hate speech about Jews because they sensibly didn't believe he was a prophet. It is remarkably similar to how L Ron Hubbard taught his followers to hate Psychologists because they rightly called him out for his bullshit.
- LightBug1 1y ago
  "DeNazification-style"... You really seem to have a comprehension issue. Is it intentional?