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I agree, the guides you can read on /r/seduction [1] are so hilarious that I can't believe anybody who writes these would be dumb enough to actually try them.

by fwr 14y ago

I agree, the guides you can read on /r/seduction [1] are so hilarious that I can't believe anybody who writes these would be dumb enough to actually try them. [1] http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction -> sidebar guides

drumdance 14y ago
If you read a little more deeply you'll find a lot of "thank you" posts like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/10hx83/fr_so_im_farily_new_to_seddit_and_finally_decided/ http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/10hx83/fr_so_im_f... It's working for some people.
- fwr 14y ago
  I really hope it's the improved mindset that's helping them, not literally following the guides.
- Dylan16807 14y ago
  Everybody's going to get lucky some of the time, especially when PUA methods encourage hitting up as many women as you can see. What I find amazing is when some of the more hardcore PUAs declare that hookups without the sleazy tactics "don't count", as part of the cultish nature of the community. Edit: fwr, yes, the real benefits come from a bit of confidence, and it is often enough to overcome the ridiculous tactics.
  - zerostar07 14y ago
    Given reddit's geeky audience, i wonder if they have analyzed their results to see statistically significant effect.
    - badclient 14y ago
      Oh sure, my wing is a hardcore nerd who's been with over 250 girls. He actually has an Excel for past 5 years charting his "lays" per month. Note that this is not typical and I would personally never go to the extreme that he is at. For me, I know if I talk to 8 random girls on the street on average I will score one date. It is normal for me to get 2-3 dates over the course of a weekend.
      - tisme 14y ago
        One day you'll grow up.
        lmm 14y ago
        You know, I get told that when I say I enjoy tinkering with computers.
        tisme 14y ago
        Don't grow up ;)!
      - eli_s 14y ago
        You sound like a douche calling your friend your 'wing' (you don't use that terminology IRL right?). Also, That much sex can't be good on either a physical (venereal disease) or emotional level. I certainly don't wish you or your friend ill, however I can't help but imagine a future for you and your friend of sadness, regret and maybe a good dose of self loathing. These encounters and 'conquests' seem utterly shallow and devoid of meaning, and coupled with the decidedly non-zero chance of contracting a life-long venereal disease with the real chance of passing these on to future 'real' partners and children... I gotta say I don't see the point.
- jiggy2011 14y ago
  Sounds more like the guy just managed to get over his ex and "get back out there". How much of that was due to the fact the girl liked him already (Women don't generally invite single guys over on their own unless they have at least some interest in them, or are already good friends) and how much was due to his "swagger", "DHV", "negs" and "kino" is up in the air.
  - badclient 14y ago
    That is one of the biggest misperceptions in the mainstream: that PUA is about using negs/DHV/kino. the reality is that most good methods will emphasize that a decent part of this is a numbers game and simply about talking to enough girls. That in itself is a skill. As an example, my results shot up significantly when I went from talk to 1 girl every 4 hours at the beginning to 5-10 an hour. I happen to try and find a girl who naturally digs me than one who needs convincing.
    - illuminate 14y ago
      If PUA focused on the things that worked and not treating women like some sort of MMO, the practitioners would be more happy/healthy. Of course, it wouldn't be PUA then, which focuses on these silly min/max "techniques" that frighten off sane women.
- drumdance 14y ago
  As I said, these kinds of thank-you's are common. I just linked to the first one I found. You can conclude that either 1) people who read seddit are a bunch of idiots and don't learn anything from it or 2) it works for some of them. I'm inclined to believe #2. A lof of PUA stuff is oversold, but there is plenty of good advice to be found as well. It definitely made a difference for me.

by fwr 14y ago

drumdance 14y ago

If you read a little more deeply you'll find a lot of "thank you" posts like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/10hx83/fr_so_im_farily_new_to_seddit_and_finally_decided/ http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/10hx83/fr_so_im_f... It's working for some people.

fwr 14y ago
I really hope it's the improved mindset that's helping them, not literally following the guides.
Dylan16807 14y ago
Everybody's going to get lucky some of the time, especially when PUA methods encourage hitting up as many women as you can see. What I find amazing is when some of the more hardcore PUAs declare that hookups without the sleazy tactics "don't count", as part of the cultish nature of the community. Edit: fwr, yes, the real benefits come from a bit of confidence, and it is often enough to overcome the ridiculous tactics.
- zerostar07 14y ago
  Given reddit's geeky audience, i wonder if they have analyzed their results to see statistically significant effect.
  - badclient 14y ago
    Oh sure, my wing is a hardcore nerd who's been with over 250 girls. He actually has an Excel for past 5 years charting his "lays" per month. Note that this is not typical and I would personally never go to the extreme that he is at. For me, I know if I talk to 8 random girls on the street on average I will score one date. It is normal for me to get 2-3 dates over the course of a weekend.
    - tisme 14y ago
      One day you'll grow up.
      - lmm 14y ago
        You know, I get told that when I say I enjoy tinkering with computers.
        tisme 14y ago
        Don't grow up ;)!
    - eli_s 14y ago
      You sound like a douche calling your friend your 'wing' (you don't use that terminology IRL right?). Also, That much sex can't be good on either a physical (venereal disease) or emotional level. I certainly don't wish you or your friend ill, however I can't help but imagine a future for you and your friend of sadness, regret and maybe a good dose of self loathing. These encounters and 'conquests' seem utterly shallow and devoid of meaning, and coupled with the decidedly non-zero chance of contracting a life-long venereal disease with the real chance of passing these on to future 'real' partners and children... I gotta say I don't see the point.
jiggy2011 14y ago
Sounds more like the guy just managed to get over his ex and "get back out there". How much of that was due to the fact the girl liked him already (Women don't generally invite single guys over on their own unless they have at least some interest in them, or are already good friends) and how much was due to his "swagger", "DHV", "negs" and "kino" is up in the air.
- badclient 14y ago
  That is one of the biggest misperceptions in the mainstream: that PUA is about using negs/DHV/kino. the reality is that most good methods will emphasize that a decent part of this is a numbers game and simply about talking to enough girls. That in itself is a skill. As an example, my results shot up significantly when I went from talk to 1 girl every 4 hours at the beginning to 5-10 an hour. I happen to try and find a girl who naturally digs me than one who needs convincing.
  - illuminate 14y ago
    If PUA focused on the things that worked and not treating women like some sort of MMO, the practitioners would be more happy/healthy. Of course, it wouldn't be PUA then, which focuses on these silly min/max "techniques" that frighten off sane women.
drumdance 14y ago
As I said, these kinds of thank-you's are common. I just linked to the first one I found. You can conclude that either 1) people who read seddit are a bunch of idiots and don't learn anything from it or 2) it works for some of them. I'm inclined to believe #2. A lof of PUA stuff is oversold, but there is plenty of good advice to be found as well. It definitely made a difference for me.