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Yeah, it must suck to get brutally JDAM'd (along with your whole family [0]), sniper-droned (seeking to main and kill [1]) and mown down by "gaza humanitarian f

Yeah, it must suck to get brutally JDAM'd (along with your whole family [0]), sniper-droned (seeking to main and kill [1]) and mown down by "gaza humanitarian foundation" machine-gun fire (while queueing for food) [2] in Palestine, just for disagreeing with israel's position that your land now belongs to them. If you're lucky, you won't be thrown into one of israel's rape-and-torture-camps [3][4]. But anyways, great submission and great work. Remember though, your cell phone signals will earn you a JDAM, because you might be a terrorist for using a cell phone. So stay on the move. Warning: links are very disturbing: 0: https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/ https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/ 1: https://www.npr.org/2024/11/19/nx-s1-5195171/witnesses-say-israel-is-using-sniper-drones-in-gaza-and-theyre-shooting-civilians https://www.npr.org/2024/11/19/nx-s1-5195171/witnesses-say-i... 2: https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165552 https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165552 3: https://theintercept.com/2024/08/09/israel-prison-sde-teiman-palestinian-abuse-torture/ https://theintercept.com/2024/08/09/israel-prison-sde-teiman... 4: https://www.btselem.org/publications/202408_welcome_to_hell https://www.btselem.org/publications/202408_welcome_to_hell

UltraSane 1y ago
Hamas is is a totalitarian theocracy that kills opponents to it.
- ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
  sounds like israel but with less torturing, killing, and genocide
  - UltraSane 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
      > Why do jews make people so irrational? Are you sure you aren't looking for stormfront or elmu's twitter, rather than HN? It's not nice for you to comment on my jewish faith (or anybody else's) in such a negative manner. But I didn't interpret your posts as irrational anyways. You are pretty coherent, just disagreeable in your religious discrimination against jews. [READER NOTE: parent "UltraSane" edited their post after I replied, above is UltraSane's original antisemetic post to which I replied]
    - LightBug1 1y ago
      Irrational? That's like saying the Allies response to the Nazi's was irrational. Come to think of it, maybe that's the solution. After WW2 the Allies "DeNazified" Germany by dismantling Nazi organizations, removing Nazis from public life, and trying prominent war criminals. It also included symbolic actions like changing street names, as well as re-educating the German population in democratic values. I'm keenly aware that there are significant sections of Israel and non-Israeli Jews who stand shoulder to shoulder fighting against what is happening in Israel. But it's not enough. Israel should go through a process similar to DeNazification.
      - immibis 1y ago
        I live in Germany and I can tell you German denazification was a complete failure. Yes they're not run by a party calling itself NSDAP. Yes there haven't been concentration camps. Yes everyone knows you have to protect Jews. But the underlying feelings are still there - they're just directed towards different groups. Germany is inching closer to doing it again with Muslims.
        LightBug1 1y ago
        Interesting perspective. However (and give me some rope here), I'd still argue that, somehow, Germany emerged from WW2, eventually, as a relatively sane and democratic country compared to where it had been during and prior to the war. So it wasn't a complete failure. All countries, as we're sadly finding out now, have a nasty undercurrent. Particularly now, but nothing compared to Nazi Germany in terms of its ideological underpinnings. However, the indiscriminate hatred, dehumanisation, and, yes, genocide on display from Israel echoes what I've studied in Hitlers Germany. And so, again, I'll argue Israel needs a similar program of DeNazification. I don't know how you get there, because they haven't been "defeated" and are in fact being supported. But that is what is needed in Israel.
        UltraSane 1y ago
        Palestinians need an equivalent purging of their unattainable goal of defeating Israel with force.
- clanky 1y ago
  Hamas is killing traitors from criminal gangs who aligned with Israel during the conflict in the hopes of getting their 30 pieces of silver.
  - UltraSane 1y ago
    Hamas supporters like you really make my skin crawl. Remember when they massacred hundreds of people at a concert and paraded the body of a young German woman they murdered like a hunting trophy? Is that what you support?
    - ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
      If you're criticized by someone who supports israel's terroristic raping, torturing, killing, and genocide of innocent civilians, that's a strong indication that you're in the right, since they're in the wrong. The critic can pretend to be as offended as much as they want, but since they're supporting israel's terroristic raping, torturing, killing, and genocide of innocent civilians (an act far worse than the one they're criticizing), the criticism rings hollow: they don't actually care about innocent civilians, only about their "side" getting everything it wants.
      - UltraSane 1y ago
        No sane person is "pretending" to be offended by the despicable actions of Hamas on Oct 7 2023. Even if Israel is committing war crimes (a reasonable position to argue), that doesn't make Hamas not a totalitarian theocracy that kills its opponents. These facts can coexist. Refusing to acknowledge Hamas's nature while condemning Israel's actions isn't moral clarity it's selective blindness.You're claiming moral authority to dismiss criticism by asserting I support worse actions committed by Israel, while simultaneously excusing far worse actions by Hamas. This is just "whataboutism" and it just attempts to silence criticism through tu quoque reasoning. This means neither side's conduct gets properly examined. Massacring concert-goers, taking civilian hostages, and using rape as a weapon of war are either categorically wrong or they're not. If Israel's killing of civilians delegitimizes its supporters' moral standing, then Hamas's deliberate targeting of civilians on Oct 7 2023 equally delegitimizes yours. You can't claim the moral high ground while excusing incredibly evil actions when they are committed by Hamas. You remind me strongly of Trump supporters who support him when he does exactly the same things they criticized Obama and Biden for doing.

UltraSane 1y ago

Hamas is is a totalitarian theocracy that kills opponents to it.

ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
sounds like israel but with less torturing, killing, and genocide
- UltraSane 1y ago
  [flagged]
  - ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
    > Why do jews make people so irrational? Are you sure you aren't looking for stormfront or elmu's twitter, rather than HN? It's not nice for you to comment on my jewish faith (or anybody else's) in such a negative manner. But I didn't interpret your posts as irrational anyways. You are pretty coherent, just disagreeable in your religious discrimination against jews. [READER NOTE: parent "UltraSane" edited their post after I replied, above is UltraSane's original antisemetic post to which I replied]
  - LightBug1 1y ago
    Irrational? That's like saying the Allies response to the Nazi's was irrational. Come to think of it, maybe that's the solution. After WW2 the Allies "DeNazified" Germany by dismantling Nazi organizations, removing Nazis from public life, and trying prominent war criminals. It also included symbolic actions like changing street names, as well as re-educating the German population in democratic values. I'm keenly aware that there are significant sections of Israel and non-Israeli Jews who stand shoulder to shoulder fighting against what is happening in Israel. But it's not enough. Israel should go through a process similar to DeNazification.
    - immibis 1y ago
      I live in Germany and I can tell you German denazification was a complete failure. Yes they're not run by a party calling itself NSDAP. Yes there haven't been concentration camps. Yes everyone knows you have to protect Jews. But the underlying feelings are still there - they're just directed towards different groups. Germany is inching closer to doing it again with Muslims.
      - LightBug1 1y ago
        Interesting perspective. However (and give me some rope here), I'd still argue that, somehow, Germany emerged from WW2, eventually, as a relatively sane and democratic country compared to where it had been during and prior to the war. So it wasn't a complete failure. All countries, as we're sadly finding out now, have a nasty undercurrent. Particularly now, but nothing compared to Nazi Germany in terms of its ideological underpinnings. However, the indiscriminate hatred, dehumanisation, and, yes, genocide on display from Israel echoes what I've studied in Hitlers Germany. And so, again, I'll argue Israel needs a similar program of DeNazification. I don't know how you get there, because they haven't been "defeated" and are in fact being supported. But that is what is needed in Israel.
        UltraSane 1y ago
        Palestinians need an equivalent purging of their unattainable goal of defeating Israel with force.
clanky 1y ago
Hamas is killing traitors from criminal gangs who aligned with Israel during the conflict in the hopes of getting their 30 pieces of silver.
- UltraSane 1y ago
  Hamas supporters like you really make my skin crawl. Remember when they massacred hundreds of people at a concert and paraded the body of a young German woman they murdered like a hunting trophy? Is that what you support?
  - ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
    If you're criticized by someone who supports israel's terroristic raping, torturing, killing, and genocide of innocent civilians, that's a strong indication that you're in the right, since they're in the wrong. The critic can pretend to be as offended as much as they want, but since they're supporting israel's terroristic raping, torturing, killing, and genocide of innocent civilians (an act far worse than the one they're criticizing), the criticism rings hollow: they don't actually care about innocent civilians, only about their "side" getting everything it wants.
    - UltraSane 1y ago
      No sane person is "pretending" to be offended by the despicable actions of Hamas on Oct 7 2023. Even if Israel is committing war crimes (a reasonable position to argue), that doesn't make Hamas not a totalitarian theocracy that kills its opponents. These facts can coexist. Refusing to acknowledge Hamas's nature while condemning Israel's actions isn't moral clarity it's selective blindness.You're claiming moral authority to dismiss criticism by asserting I support worse actions committed by Israel, while simultaneously excusing far worse actions by Hamas. This is just "whataboutism" and it just attempts to silence criticism through tu quoque reasoning. This means neither side's conduct gets properly examined. Massacring concert-goers, taking civilian hostages, and using rape as a weapon of war are either categorically wrong or they're not. If Israel's killing of civilians delegitimizes its supporters' moral standing, then Hamas's deliberate targeting of civilians on Oct 7 2023 equally delegitimizes yours. You can't claim the moral high ground while excusing incredibly evil actions when they are committed by Hamas. You remind me strongly of Trump supporters who support him when he does exactly the same things they criticized Obama and Biden for doing.