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Eternal vigilance is needed to stop this. Good luck! It will take just one (manufactured) crisis.

by PeterStuer 1y ago

ryandrake 1y ago
We have to win every time. They only have to win once and it's game over.
- ambicapter 1y ago
  Why can't we put up legislation to repeal over and over until it is repealed?
  - PeterStuer 1y ago
    "Over and over" is the hint.
  - soulofmischief 1y ago
    Power/wealth asymmetries. The incumbent organizations are powerful, have many resources and actively work to prevent other organizations from achieving the same level if competency.
  - dymk 1y ago
    Because legislation like this is a ratchet.
  - pembrook 1y ago
    The number of laws/rules added vs. removed in any given year is like 100:1. New rules lead to profitable business opportunities (and future lobbies), incumbents get to entrench their positions using the new rules, and people get stockholm syndrome and just end up accepting the new normal. Modern representative democracy is Parkinson's law at work. Government is the purest form of bureaucracy and monopoly. Thus, it finds ways to grow itself every year regardless of what happens.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > Why can't we put up legislation to repeal over and over until it is repealed? We can. It’s just easier to throw a wrench in a legislative process than to start it. (By design.)
zelphirkalt 1y ago
There is also an alternative, which is the way problems with governments used to get solved in the past. Not that we should aim for that to be necessary, but it often seems that our politicians are hellbend on getting there quickly. I guess it's all "to hell with the consequences!" for them.
latexr 1y ago
That argument is so tiring. Yes, we know, we all understand this, that’s true of every draconian law proposal. What’s the point of repeating that over and over every time? If you want to give up, do, but let others fight without needless discouraging. If everyone thought like you, this would have passed first time.

Eternal vigilance is needed to stop this. Good luck! It will take just one (manufactured) crisis.

ryandrake 1y ago

We have to win every time. They only have to win once and it's game over.

ambicapter 1y ago
Why can't we put up legislation to repeal over and over until it is repealed?
- PeterStuer 1y ago
  "Over and over" is the hint.
- soulofmischief 1y ago
  Power/wealth asymmetries. The incumbent organizations are powerful, have many resources and actively work to prevent other organizations from achieving the same level if competency.
- dymk 1y ago
  Because legislation like this is a ratchet.
- pembrook 1y ago
  The number of laws/rules added vs. removed in any given year is like 100:1. New rules lead to profitable business opportunities (and future lobbies), incumbents get to entrench their positions using the new rules, and people get stockholm syndrome and just end up accepting the new normal. Modern representative democracy is Parkinson's law at work. Government is the purest form of bureaucracy and monopoly. Thus, it finds ways to grow itself every year regardless of what happens.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > Why can't we put up legislation to repeal over and over until it is repealed? We can. It’s just easier to throw a wrench in a legislative process than to start it. (By design.)

zelphirkalt 1y ago

There is also an alternative, which is the way problems with governments used to get solved in the past. Not that we should aim for that to be necessary, but it often seems that our politicians are hellbend on getting there quickly. I guess it's all "to hell with the consequences!" for them.

latexr 1y ago

That argument is so tiring. Yes, we know, we all understand this, that’s true of every draconian law proposal. What’s the point of repeating that over and over every time? If you want to give up, do, but let others fight without needless discouraging. If everyone thought like you, this would have passed first time.