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Seems like they are equating all generated content with slop. Is that how people actually understand "slop"? https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/slopstop.html

Seems like they are equating all generated content with slop. Is that how people actually understand "slop"? https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/slopstop.html#what-is-considered-slop https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/slopstop.html#what-is-co... > We evaluate the channel; if the majority of its content is AI‑generated, the channel is flagged as AI slop and downranked. What about, y'know, good generated content like Neural Viz? https://www.youtube.com/@NeuralViz https://www.youtube.com/@NeuralViz

DiabloD3 1y ago
Yes. People do not want AI generated content without explicit consent, and "slop" is a derogatory term for AI generated content, ergo, people are willing to pay money for working slop detection. I wasn't big on Kagi, but I dunno man, I'm suddenly willing to hear them out.
- cactusplant7374 1y ago
  How about when English isn't someone's first language and they are using AI to rewrite their thoughts into something more cohesive? You see this a lot on reddit.
  - ares623 1y ago
    That’s one of the collateral damage in all this, just like all the people who lost their jobs due to AI driven layoffs.
  - ourguile 1y ago
    I would assume then, that someone can report it as "not slop", per their documentation: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/slopstop.html#reporting-content https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/slopstop.html#reporting-...
  - Zambyte 1y ago
    Not all AI generated content is slop. Translation is a great use case for LLMs, and almost certainly would not get someone flagged as slop if that is all they are doing with it.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > How about when English isn't someone's first language and they are using AI to rewrite their thoughts into something more cohesive? They should honestly use a different tool. Translation is a space in which language models are diverse, competitive and competent. If your translated content sounds like ChatGPT, it's going to be dismissed. Unfairly, perhaps. But consistently nevertheless.
    - cactusplant7374 1y ago
      They want to turn two sentences into four paragraphs.
palmotea 1y ago
> What about, y'know, good generated content like Neural Viz? There is no good AI generated content. I just clicked around randomly on a few of those videos and then there was this guy dual-wielding mice: https://youtu.be/1Ijs1Z2fWQQ?si=9X0y6AGyK_5Gaiko&t=19 https://youtu.be/1Ijs1Z2fWQQ?si=9X0y6AGyK_5Gaiko&t=19
- martin- 1y ago
  > There is no good AI generated content. What's good or bad is subjective. I've seen plenty of (in my opinion) good AI-generated content. But making such a sweeping statement suggests to me that your mind is made up on the topic.
lm28469 1y ago
Let's be real two minutes here, the extreme vast majority of generated content is pure garbage, you'll always find edge cases of creative people but there are so few of them you can handle these case by case
barbazoo 1y ago
> Seems like they are equating all generated content with slop. I got the opposite, FTA: > What is AI “Slop” and how can we stop it? > AI slop is deceptive or low-value AI-generated content, created to manipulate ranking or attention rather than help the reader.
cosmic_cheese 1y ago
High value AI-generated content is vanishingly rare relative to the amount of low value junk that’s been pumped out. Like a fleck of gold in a garbage dump the size of Dallas kind of rare.

DiabloD3 1y ago

Yes. People do not want AI generated content without explicit consent, and "slop" is a derogatory term for AI generated content, ergo, people are willing to pay money for working slop detection. I wasn't big on Kagi, but I dunno man, I'm suddenly willing to hear them out.

cactusplant7374 1y ago
How about when English isn't someone's first language and they are using AI to rewrite their thoughts into something more cohesive? You see this a lot on reddit.
- ares623 1y ago
  That’s one of the collateral damage in all this, just like all the people who lost their jobs due to AI driven layoffs.
- ourguile 1y ago
  I would assume then, that someone can report it as "not slop", per their documentation: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/slopstop.html#reporting-content https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/slopstop.html#reporting-...
- Zambyte 1y ago
  Not all AI generated content is slop. Translation is a great use case for LLMs, and almost certainly would not get someone flagged as slop if that is all they are doing with it.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > How about when English isn't someone's first language and they are using AI to rewrite their thoughts into something more cohesive? They should honestly use a different tool. Translation is a space in which language models are diverse, competitive and competent. If your translated content sounds like ChatGPT, it's going to be dismissed. Unfairly, perhaps. But consistently nevertheless.
  - cactusplant7374 1y ago
    They want to turn two sentences into four paragraphs.

palmotea 1y ago

> What about, y'know, good generated content like Neural Viz? There is no good AI generated content. I just clicked around randomly on a few of those videos and then there was this guy dual-wielding mice: https://youtu.be/1Ijs1Z2fWQQ?si=9X0y6AGyK_5Gaiko&t=19 https://youtu.be/1Ijs1Z2fWQQ?si=9X0y6AGyK_5Gaiko&t=19

martin- 1y ago
> There is no good AI generated content. What's good or bad is subjective. I've seen plenty of (in my opinion) good AI-generated content. But making such a sweeping statement suggests to me that your mind is made up on the topic.

lm28469 1y ago

Let's be real two minutes here, the extreme vast majority of generated content is pure garbage, you'll always find edge cases of creative people but there are so few of them you can handle these case by case

barbazoo 1y ago

> Seems like they are equating all generated content with slop. I got the opposite, FTA: > What is AI “Slop” and how can we stop it? > AI slop is deceptive or low-value AI-generated content, created to manipulate ranking or attention rather than help the reader.

cosmic_cheese 1y ago

High value AI-generated content is vanishingly rare relative to the amount of low value junk that’s been pumped out. Like a fleck of gold in a garbage dump the size of Dallas kind of rare.