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Even Realities Smart Glasses: G2
- ktallett 11mo agoI like the idea a lot more than other implementations (although I still think the original google glass was great), but I do feel the market for these, outside of the bankers and financial industry that loves to show off with tech, is primarily dorks like myself, and dorks like myself often like to be able to fiddle. The fact I can't be trusted to install applications that I can make as I go with an easy to use api seems a mistake. I see the even hub but that seems far off considering there is no details about it.
- geraldwhen 11mo agoNo open App Store is a non starter.
- stavros 11mo agoOof, yeah. Why do I want this if I can't run code on it? Useless.
- volemo 11mo agoThey have an open BLE based protocol, you can display whatever you want on the screen. https://github.com/even-realities https://github.com/even-realities
- ktallett 11mo agoI am not seeing anything mentioning that via this link.
- volemo 11mo agoThere is a big README panel saying: > We have now released a demo source code to show how you can build your own application (iOS/Android) to interact with G1 glasses. > More interfaces and features will also be open soon to give you better control of the hardware. With a link to the demo app just below that with a detailed explanation of the protocol and currently available features.
- ktallett 11mo agoWell that was awfully blind of me! Apologies!
- j-bos 11mo ago> The fact I can't be trusted to install applications that I can make as I go Thanks this was key in deciding whether to consider this brand at all.
- KurSix 11mo agoGoogle Glass at least gave devs something to play with out of the gate
- boriskourt 11mo agoI wonder how they handle the whole notification stack with iOS. Did anyone try the first one? A lot of non-apple wearables have issues with that.
- throawayonthe 11mo agothere's an ai lol
- volemo 11mo agoIsn’t AI everywhere nowadays? I won’t be surprised if there’re AI toasters and fridges.
- cjs_ac 11mo agoI really like the aesthetic of these, both the glasses themselves and the UI. However, I have the same problem with these as with smartwatches: the apps don't solve any of my problems.
- amelius 11mo ago> the apps don't solve any of my problems Reminds me of when dumbphones were introduced and people said things like why do I need to have a phone with me all the time.
- Eisenstein 11mo agoI don't remember anyone saying that.
- ChrisMarshallNY 11mo agoIn the 1980s, it was pretty common. This is what cellphones looked like, back then: https://share.google/z3bBbfhT43EHcDYoc https://share.google/z3bBbfhT43EHcDYoc Cellphones actually were quite small, during the 1990s. I used to go to Japan, and they got downright tiny during that time. Smartphones actually increased the size (but not to 1980s scale).
- chrischen 11mo agoReal time translations is a real good use case. The problem is most implementations such as the Airpods live translate are not great.
- jhugo 11mo agoI have the G1 glasses and unfortunately the microphones are terrible, so the live translation feature barely works. Even if you sit in a quiet room and try to make conditions perfect, the accuracy of transcription is very low. If you try to use it out on the street it rarely gets even a single word correct.
- KaiserPro 11mo agoNice idea, but no world lock rendering (Thats hard so we'll let them off) However you are limited in what you can do. there are no speakers, which they pitch as a "simpler quieter interface" which is great but it means that _all_ your interactions are visual, even if they don't need to be. I'm also not sure about the microphone setup, if you're doing voice assistant, you need beamforming/steering. However, the online context in "conversate" mode is quite nice. I wonder how useful it is. they hint at proper context control "we can remember your previous conversations" but thats a largely unsolved problem on large machines, let alone on device.
- volemo 11mo agoWhy would you need world lock rendering on a 640x350 monochrome display? It’s a personal dashboard, not a “spatial computer”.
- KaiserPro 11mo agomaps, but also being able to move your head so that you can see past the thing on the screen is useful. For people who are prone to motion sickness, its also really useful to have it tied to the global frame. (I don't have that, fortunately)
- volemo 11mo ago> being able to move your head so that you can see past the thing on the screen is useful Afaiu, the dashboard is positioned above you, so you have to tilt your head up to see it and it shouldn’t obstruct anything important in regular life.
- nylonstrung 11mo agoI bought this but ultimately returned it as it didn't really solve any problems due to being a complete walled garden with very sparse functionality right now It's a cool form factor but the built-in transcription, ai etc are not very well implemented and I cannot imagine a user viewing this as essential rather than a novelty gadget
- sprash 11mo ago> complete walled garden Not really. You can build your own apps [1]. 1.: https://github.com/even-realities/EvenDemoApp https://github.com/even-realities/EvenDemoApp
- throwuxiytayq 11mo agoNot enough. I am not putting any hardware on my nose if I can't fully control the software running on it. Is the OS open source?
- sprash 11mo agoThis is pretty low level access. The phone you are going to pair it with and is providing network access is definitely more closed than this.
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- einpoklum 11mo agoI've never used any smart glasses, but I do wear prescription glasses ("dumb" glasses?); don't these smart glasses products all clash with the field of prescription lenses? I mean, either they each have to provide the entire possible range of correction profiles, for use instead of what people wear now, or they need to be attachable/overlays for regular prescription glasses - which is complicated and doesn't look like what the providers are doing ATM. Or - am I getting it wrong?
- ChrisMarshallNY 11mo agoThings like Vision and Quest have the ability to adapt to vision issues, but these things likely don’t. I guess they could use a common “generic” form factor, that would allow prescription lenses to be ordered. That said, this is really the ideal form factor (think Dale, in Questionable Content), and all headsets probably want to be it, when they grow up.
- boriskourt 11mo agoThese offer a wide-ish profile of prescription lens options within the three lens types they support. It is definitely not the full gamut though.
- swiftcoder 11mo agoI love how every player in this space is just building exactly the same product, and no of them seems to have a compelling pitch why someone would need their product
- dbbk 11mo agoTeleprompter is pretty original and compelling
- swiftcoder 11mo agoI guess. I mean... how often do you use an actual teleprompter? I'm guessing apart from politicians and newscasters, the answer is pretty much never.
- basedrum 11mo agoAnyone who did any public speaking?
- swiftcoder 11mo agoI'm not sure how many actually use teleprompters, because it regularly bothers me how many public figures are staring at their notes on the podium throughout their speeches. Mind you, I grew up in the handful-of-index-cards-and-memorise-the-damn-speech era.
- dbbk 11mo agoThat's probably because access to a real teleprompter is pretty difficult?
- fsiefken 11mo agoFor me it's like the pebble in smart glasses land, simple and elegant. Less is more, just calendar, tasks, notes and AI. The rest I can do on my laptop or phone (with or without other display glasses). I do wish there's a way to use the LLM on my android phone with it and if possible write my own app for it. So I am not dependent on the internet and have my HUD/G2 as a lightweight custom made AI assistent.
- qweiopqweiop 11mo agoAm I the only one who feels hesitant to even interact with someone wearing smart glasses? I have no idea if they could be recording me.
- KurSix 11mo agoIt's similar to how people felt when Google Glass first showed up. Until there's some universally understood signal like a visible recording light (that can't be turned off), I think that unease is going to stick around
- qweiopqweiop 11mo agoEven with a light, a just made a quick google search and the top reddit thread is about how easy it is to cover up with black nail paint.
- volemo 11mo agoThese particular classes don’t have a camera.
- jtrn 11mo agoThe only thing that matters is how easily I can customize what is shown on the screen. Everything else is probably just annoying, like the translation or map feature, which I assume will be finicky and useless. If the ring had four-way arrows and ok/back buttons, and the glasses had a proper SDK for creating basic navigation and retrieval, such as the ability to communicate with HTTP APIs, there would be no limit to the useful things I could create. However, if I'm forced to use built-in applications only, I have very little faith that it would actually be useful, considering how bad the last generation of applications for these devices was.
- amelius 11mo ago> The only thing that matters is how easily I can customize what is shown on the screen. What matters more is how they support different eye-distances (interpupillary distance, IPD).
- jtrn 11mo agoI assumed that the display is actually watchable, as it seems to be. I have multiple AR and VR glasses, and I have never gotten fed up with them due to an inability to view the content properly. But having to struggle with getting it to show the content I want... For instance, the teleprompter is terrible and buggy when it tries to follow along based on voice. A simple clicker for moving forward in a text file would be better than how it currently works. How many people say they lost interest due to ocular issues versus complaints that it’s just not useful? Seriously. A simple file browser with support for text files only would be more useful than the finicky G1 apps. Of course visual issues could occur for someone, but it’s so aggravating that the they can’t just put in some sort of customization for content properly
- Anonbrit 11mo agoThere's a Bluetooth API for the G1 that's been pretty fully reverse engineered. It wouldn't be at all difficult to wrap an http wrapper around it if somebody hasn't already. I suspect you could even vibe code it in a weekend.
- spigottoday 11mo agoUnder support a number of policies are listed. The privacy policy is not one of them. No thanks.
- ripped_britches 11mo agoIf you run this site, look into making your images more compressed! Takes forever to load them
- beeflet 11mo agoI don't have time to fiddle around with some locked-in ecosystem in exchange a little more productivity or the ability to pretend not to be using my computer. And I don't even have a day job. If it was just a heads-up display for android like xreal, but low power and wireless that might be cool for when I'm driving. But everyone wants to make AI glasses locked into their own ecosystem. Everyone wants to displace the smartphone, from the Rabbit R1 to the new ray-bans. It's impossible. In the end this tech will all get democratized and open sourced anyways, so I have to hand it to Meta and others for throwing money around and doing all this free R&D for the greater good.
- hereme888 11mo agoSo we're already used to people looking crazy talking to themselves (talking via BT headphones). Now we're going to see people's eyes moving around like crazy.
- volemo 11mo agoWould that attract your attention? I see people with nystagmus often enough to not care.
- hereme888 11mo agoIt would. I don't know if you mean people reading phone screens or on drugs or what, but I rarely ever see it outside clinical settings.
- volemo 11mo ago> if you mean people reading phone screens or on drugs or what Nope, just people in my regular life, colleagues, etc. having that little twitch in their eyes.