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I _really really_ want to try this feature, but only if I can selfhost the collaboration server. If there is any way to do this, it's not obvious. Given that as

I _really really_ want to try this feature, but only if I can selfhost the collaboration server. If there is any way to do this, it's not obvious. Given that as I understand it, lots of project details will pass through Zed's servers, I can't imagine any enterprises would knowingly allow this without some kind of SLA with Zed.

nixpulvis 11mo ago
It could be easier, but it is supported AFAIK: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/8260#issuecomment-1965463519 https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/8260#issuecomme...
- mikaylamaki 11mo ago
  Unfortunately, we no longer support self hosting. We're planning on reintroducing it once we've polished the single player experience a bit more :)
  - Octoth0rpe 11mo ago
    Thanks for the update. Can't wait to hear more!
  - nixpulvis 11mo ago
    Oh, that's unfortunate. Why not support it at all, even if just for people who are kinda hacking it in?
    - mikaylamaki 11mo ago
      We’ve been growing and have had to scale authentication beyond what our original collab server could handle. Not many people are using collab yet, we’re prioritizing non-collaborative features (like our recent Windows release), and we’re planning on rebuilding all of this on top of DeltaDB. Fundamentally, it just fell through the cracks. Self hosting will be a vital feature for users and enterprises though, we’re planning on revisiting it once we have a few more features settled :D
      - nixpulvis 11mo ago
        Cool, thanks for the transparency and info. I'm really rooting for you guys, and your direction and quality is exciting to see.
      - UtahDave 11mo ago
        Looks like development of DeltaDB has been discontinued. https://github.com/delta-db/deltadb?tab=readme-ov-file#-update-suspending-development-of-deltadb- https://github.com/delta-db/deltadb?tab=readme-ov-file#-upda...
        mikaylamaki 11mo ago
        That is a different project :D Here's our overall pitch: https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed#introducing-deltadb-operation-level-version-control https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed#introducing-deltadb-o...
        satvikpendem 11mo ago
        Looks great. I use some CRDTs like Loro and Automerge, are there any learnings or collaboration you're taking from them to improve DeltaDB? Also the name, I thought it was a database with CRDTs due to the "DB" at the end of DeltaDB, but it's a version control system, I thought that was somewhat misleading, any reason why it's named so?
        infogulch 11mo ago
        Oh is this based on my favoritest data structure ever: zed's Sum Tree?
        adastra22 11mo ago
        Is this / will this be open source? I have a direct immediate need for this and was about to break ground on greenfield implementation. Had no idea Zed was working on something similar. I would of course much rather collaborate than maintain a competing VCS.
        Xevion 11mo ago

nixpulvis 11mo ago

It could be easier, but it is supported AFAIK: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/8260#issuecomment-1965463519 https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/8260#issuecomme...

mikaylamaki 11mo ago
Unfortunately, we no longer support self hosting. We're planning on reintroducing it once we've polished the single player experience a bit more :)
- Octoth0rpe 11mo ago
  Thanks for the update. Can't wait to hear more!
- nixpulvis 11mo ago
  Oh, that's unfortunate. Why not support it at all, even if just for people who are kinda hacking it in?
  - mikaylamaki 11mo ago
    We’ve been growing and have had to scale authentication beyond what our original collab server could handle. Not many people are using collab yet, we’re prioritizing non-collaborative features (like our recent Windows release), and we’re planning on rebuilding all of this on top of DeltaDB. Fundamentally, it just fell through the cracks. Self hosting will be a vital feature for users and enterprises though, we’re planning on revisiting it once we have a few more features settled :D
    - nixpulvis 11mo ago
      Cool, thanks for the transparency and info. I'm really rooting for you guys, and your direction and quality is exciting to see.
    - UtahDave 11mo ago
      Looks like development of DeltaDB has been discontinued. https://github.com/delta-db/deltadb?tab=readme-ov-file#-update-suspending-development-of-deltadb- https://github.com/delta-db/deltadb?tab=readme-ov-file#-upda...
      - mikaylamaki 11mo ago
        That is a different project :D Here's our overall pitch: https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed#introducing-deltadb-operation-level-version-control https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed#introducing-deltadb-o...
        satvikpendem 11mo ago
        Looks great. I use some CRDTs like Loro and Automerge, are there any learnings or collaboration you're taking from them to improve DeltaDB? Also the name, I thought it was a database with CRDTs due to the "DB" at the end of DeltaDB, but it's a version control system, I thought that was somewhat misleading, any reason why it's named so?
        infogulch 11mo ago
        Oh is this based on my favoritest data structure ever: zed's Sum Tree?
        adastra22 11mo ago
        Is this / will this be open source? I have a direct immediate need for this and was about to break ground on greenfield implementation. Had no idea Zed was working on something similar. I would of course much rather collaborate than maintain a competing VCS.
      - Xevion 11mo ago