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That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other mode

That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

toomuchtodo 1y ago
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estearum 1y ago
Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.
- baxtr 1y ago
  "No idea" doesn’t sound right. I’d say he thinks he has many superpowers, but maybe in reality just has one.
- jordanb 1y ago
  His cult is a very specific type of person. The general public finds him repulsive as demonstrated by his time in government. He's a cult leader with surprisingly horrible political instincts
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - fragmede 1y ago
    > as demonstrated by his time in government Without actually getting into the specific actions he took while in government, I dare say that what he did during that time was material to people's revulsion and that a different version of him who took different actions would have been differently popular.
    - jordanb 1y ago
      For sure but deciding what to do is part of political instincts. He rolled in, threw some "roman salutes" fired tons of people in an insanely chaotic way while waving a chainsaw around on stage then showed up in the Whitehouse with a black eye he blamed on his toddler
  - estearum 1y ago
    Yeah, most cults are repulsive to most outsiders. Their power is completely derived from the intensity of the in-group's commitment.
  - mlinhares 1y ago
    That's a requirement, part of being in a cult is being rejected by "outsiders" so that you think you have no other options other than staying in the cult. Classic abusive behavior.
  - cogman10 1y ago
    He did better at hiding his worst instincts. I honestly think the Ketamine has destroyed his ability to hide his worst instincts. Not saying there weren't leaks that he was a huge asshole. Just saying that I could forgive people for over looking it early on.
- kakacik 1y ago
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  - estearum 1y ago
    He literally doesn't deliver. SpaceX is the only company of his that consistently delivers and that's effectively not operated by him.
    - mhh__ 1y ago
      He is clearly still very involved in the strategy of spacex. I don't think he actually cares much about cars these days.
      - cosmicgadget 1y ago
        Am I the only one who works in an org where the strategy team, on a good day, is completely decoupled from efforts that result in delivery. On a normal day they actively sabotage those efforts. Like promising your team will create a Mars colony by 2036 while they're trying to make commercial rocketry efficient and safe.
        fragmede 1y ago
        > If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea. -Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
        cosmicgadget 1y ago
        ... famous for having built fuck all. I mean yes, it is often good to inspire people. But that is not strategy any more than you can win a game of Risk by beliving you can roll only 7s.
        fragmede 1y ago
- throw4847285 1y ago
  He actually shares a lot in common with his former(?) friend Kanye West. Both crave the validation of others, but when they get it, instead of being satisfied, they become even more needy and insecure. So they pursue anything except what they're actually good at because then if they fail at the thing people actually value them for, it would be too painful. And they surround themselves with yes men who tell them how great they are. All these factors make them more and more isolated and insecure. Combine that with drugs, alcohol, and sex and you have a toxic brew. You may say this armchair analysis is unfair, but both these men have been so candid, veiled by the thinnest layer of irony, that it's impossible not to see how fragile they are.
  - jordanb 1y ago
    Kanye made some incredible music in his day, at least. I still listen to College Dropout and Dark Twisted Fantasy.
    - matwood 1y ago
      Kanye's beat/producer credits are also amazing.
  - estearum 1y ago
    I don't think this is unfair at all. I mean this literally has to be one of the three oldest stories ever? And I mean that literally. There is no more timeless a story than: "man gets powerful enough to eliminate negative feedback, becomes stupid/ineffective/self-damaging"
jordanb 1y ago
He was happy enough to be able to spell s3xy with those cars. Maybe they could have come up with something extremely juvenile for him to do while they designed a rivian
- the_sleaze_ 1y ago
  Like make the integrated voice-activated AI have a setting to swear at and insult you while driving
  - fluoridation 1y ago
    Idea: A car that detects when there's only one occupant, and shouts expletives through the audio system when the driver narrowly avoids hitting something at high speed.
- iso1631 1y ago
  Call it a model 69 and be done Or maybe model 6/7 would be better for him nowadays
AnotherGoodName 1y ago
You do see glimpses of it in the other models. Eg. The removal of the indicator stalk likely saved <$100 (if that!) but it's a non-starter for many buyers. That has to be Musk's doing right?
- pengaru 1y ago
  > You do see glimpses of it in the other models. Eg. The removal of the indicator stalk likely saved <$100 (if that!) but it's a non-starter for many buyers. That has to be Musk's doing right? "all input is error" - elon musk wdyt? From where I'm sitting anyone with that position would deprecate the input devices...

toomuchtodo 1y ago

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estearum 1y ago

Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.

baxtr 1y ago
"No idea" doesn’t sound right. I’d say he thinks he has many superpowers, but maybe in reality just has one.
jordanb 1y ago
His cult is a very specific type of person. The general public finds him repulsive as demonstrated by his time in government. He's a cult leader with surprisingly horrible political instincts
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- fragmede 1y ago
  > as demonstrated by his time in government Without actually getting into the specific actions he took while in government, I dare say that what he did during that time was material to people's revulsion and that a different version of him who took different actions would have been differently popular.
  - jordanb 1y ago
    For sure but deciding what to do is part of political instincts. He rolled in, threw some "roman salutes" fired tons of people in an insanely chaotic way while waving a chainsaw around on stage then showed up in the Whitehouse with a black eye he blamed on his toddler
- estearum 1y ago
  Yeah, most cults are repulsive to most outsiders. Their power is completely derived from the intensity of the in-group's commitment.
- mlinhares 1y ago
  That's a requirement, part of being in a cult is being rejected by "outsiders" so that you think you have no other options other than staying in the cult. Classic abusive behavior.
- cogman10 1y ago
  He did better at hiding his worst instincts. I honestly think the Ketamine has destroyed his ability to hide his worst instincts. Not saying there weren't leaks that he was a huge asshole. Just saying that I could forgive people for over looking it early on.
kakacik 1y ago
[flagged]
- estearum 1y ago
  He literally doesn't deliver. SpaceX is the only company of his that consistently delivers and that's effectively not operated by him.
  - mhh__ 1y ago
    He is clearly still very involved in the strategy of spacex. I don't think he actually cares much about cars these days.
    - cosmicgadget 1y ago
      Am I the only one who works in an org where the strategy team, on a good day, is completely decoupled from efforts that result in delivery. On a normal day they actively sabotage those efforts. Like promising your team will create a Mars colony by 2036 while they're trying to make commercial rocketry efficient and safe.
      - fragmede 1y ago
        > If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea. -Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
        cosmicgadget 1y ago
        ... famous for having built fuck all. I mean yes, it is often good to inspire people. But that is not strategy any more than you can win a game of Risk by beliving you can roll only 7s.
        fragmede 1y ago
throw4847285 1y ago
He actually shares a lot in common with his former(?) friend Kanye West. Both crave the validation of others, but when they get it, instead of being satisfied, they become even more needy and insecure. So they pursue anything except what they're actually good at because then if they fail at the thing people actually value them for, it would be too painful. And they surround themselves with yes men who tell them how great they are. All these factors make them more and more isolated and insecure. Combine that with drugs, alcohol, and sex and you have a toxic brew. You may say this armchair analysis is unfair, but both these men have been so candid, veiled by the thinnest layer of irony, that it's impossible not to see how fragile they are.
- jordanb 1y ago
  Kanye made some incredible music in his day, at least. I still listen to College Dropout and Dark Twisted Fantasy.
  - matwood 1y ago
    Kanye's beat/producer credits are also amazing.
- estearum 1y ago
  I don't think this is unfair at all. I mean this literally has to be one of the three oldest stories ever? And I mean that literally. There is no more timeless a story than: "man gets powerful enough to eliminate negative feedback, becomes stupid/ineffective/self-damaging"

jordanb 1y ago

He was happy enough to be able to spell s3xy with those cars. Maybe they could have come up with something extremely juvenile for him to do while they designed a rivian

the_sleaze_ 1y ago
Like make the integrated voice-activated AI have a setting to swear at and insult you while driving
- fluoridation 1y ago
  Idea: A car that detects when there's only one occupant, and shouts expletives through the audio system when the driver narrowly avoids hitting something at high speed.
iso1631 1y ago
Call it a model 69 and be done Or maybe model 6/7 would be better for him nowadays

AnotherGoodName 1y ago

You do see glimpses of it in the other models. Eg. The removal of the indicator stalk likely saved <$100 (if that!) but it's a non-starter for many buyers. That has to be Musk's doing right?

pengaru 1y ago
> You do see glimpses of it in the other models. Eg. The removal of the indicator stalk likely saved <$100 (if that!) but it's a non-starter for many buyers. That has to be Musk's doing right? "all input is error" - elon musk wdyt? From where I'm sitting anyone with that position would deprecate the input devices...