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Yeah the page is currently loading very quickly and is very easy to read due to an issue with Cloudflare. Edit: If I'm honest, I find this specific css fairly

by Joeboy 11mo ago

Yeah the page is currently loading very quickly and is very easy to read due to an issue with Cloudflare. Edit: If I'm honest, I find this specific css fairly innocuous. I have a more general grudge that raw HTML is easy, free and accessible but we collectively insisted that it's not OK to use it.

latexr 11mo ago
I tested repeatedly, always clearing the cache, and there was essentially no speed difference in loading with or without the CSS. In one instance, loading with CSS was even faster.
sim04ful 11mo ago
It's actually funny, the lack of styling actually makes consuming the info alot easier.
- badosu 11mo ago
  Funny if not tragic. I was impressed at how good the styling of the page was until I realized the css did not load.
- yuters 11mo ago
  It is way more readable with CSS, I don't know what you're all on about. The font is bigger, the lines are shorter, the navigation doesn't take half the page. The only thing worse would be the contrast but it's not that bad.
  - a2128 11mo ago
    On mobile it's actually super readable and lines are a perfect length, and having to scroll past the top navigation doesn't affect readability much
    - saretup 11mo ago
      The top navigation definitely put me off, I immediately came back without even scrolling down.
- hbosch 11mo ago
  The page is objectively and substantially better in every aspect of legibility with CSS loaded.
  - catapart 11mo ago
    Hey, take it easy! It's not nice to pick on those poor developers who can only read text that has been piped into their preferred TUI.
  - NewsaHackO 11mo ago
    Yea, "Minimalism is better!" is like a reflex for some people
    - raxxorraxor 11mo ago
      It often is. Turns out this page does fit the bill, CSS or not.
  - spiderice 11mo ago
    > objectively I do not think that word means what you think it means
    - rendaw 11mo ago
      All art is a combination of objective and subjective aspects. The objective improvements from css here include: shorter lines are easier to read (per multiple legibility studies), the styling distinguishes navigation and secondary site elements from the main content (without css you get a half screen of navigation links), and the visual importance of in-page anchor links is reduced.
    - hbosch 11mo ago
      I used it to mean that it's inarguably true and unrelated to opinion.
- amelius 11mo ago
  Except I like to have some margin. And since I have a wide screen, the number of words per line is too large.
  - prmoustache 11mo ago
    That is a weird take. Having a wide screen doesn't force you to maximize the window.
    - cassepipe 11mo ago
      I don't know about most people but to me seeing bits of my desktop on the sides of the window I care about feels like visual noise. I like to have all my apps maximized but maybe is that just me ?
      - imp0cat 11mo ago
        Hate seeing bits of your desktop showing? Try a tiling window manager, you might like it!
      - prmoustache 11mo ago
        How having bit of your desktop showing on the sides any different than whatever background image or color a particular website decides to show on each side of the text? I prefer having a quiet single color background and being able to dictate how wide is the text I am reading than being limited by the website owner's choice. But that is also maybe just me.

by Joeboy 11mo ago

latexr 11mo ago

I tested repeatedly, always clearing the cache, and there was essentially no speed difference in loading with or without the CSS. In one instance, loading with CSS was even faster.

sim04ful 11mo ago

It's actually funny, the lack of styling actually makes consuming the info alot easier.

badosu 11mo ago
Funny if not tragic. I was impressed at how good the styling of the page was until I realized the css did not load.
yuters 11mo ago
It is way more readable with CSS, I don't know what you're all on about. The font is bigger, the lines are shorter, the navigation doesn't take half the page. The only thing worse would be the contrast but it's not that bad.
- a2128 11mo ago
  On mobile it's actually super readable and lines are a perfect length, and having to scroll past the top navigation doesn't affect readability much
  - saretup 11mo ago
    The top navigation definitely put me off, I immediately came back without even scrolling down.
hbosch 11mo ago
The page is objectively and substantially better in every aspect of legibility with CSS loaded.
- catapart 11mo ago
  Hey, take it easy! It's not nice to pick on those poor developers who can only read text that has been piped into their preferred TUI.
- NewsaHackO 11mo ago
  Yea, "Minimalism is better!" is like a reflex for some people
  - raxxorraxor 11mo ago
    It often is. Turns out this page does fit the bill, CSS or not.
- spiderice 11mo ago
  > objectively I do not think that word means what you think it means
  - rendaw 11mo ago
    All art is a combination of objective and subjective aspects. The objective improvements from css here include: shorter lines are easier to read (per multiple legibility studies), the styling distinguishes navigation and secondary site elements from the main content (without css you get a half screen of navigation links), and the visual importance of in-page anchor links is reduced.
  - hbosch 11mo ago
    I used it to mean that it's inarguably true and unrelated to opinion.
amelius 11mo ago
Except I like to have some margin. And since I have a wide screen, the number of words per line is too large.
- prmoustache 11mo ago
  That is a weird take. Having a wide screen doesn't force you to maximize the window.
  - cassepipe 11mo ago
    I don't know about most people but to me seeing bits of my desktop on the sides of the window I care about feels like visual noise. I like to have all my apps maximized but maybe is that just me ?
    - imp0cat 11mo ago
      Hate seeing bits of your desktop showing? Try a tiling window manager, you might like it!
    - prmoustache 11mo ago
      How having bit of your desktop showing on the sides any different than whatever background image or color a particular website decides to show on each side of the text? I prefer having a quiet single color background and being able to dictate how wide is the text I am reading than being limited by the website owner's choice. But that is also maybe just me.