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Denx (a.k.a. U-Boot) Retires
- kevin_thibedeau 1y ago[flagged]
- deleted 1y ago[deleted]
- bsimpson 1y agoFor those missing the reference, NAMBLA is the "man/boy love association" (as in pedophiles).
- masfuerte 11mo ago[dead]
- octoberfranklin 11mo agoBack before SWATting was a thing, signing up people you disliked as members of NAMBLA was all the rage. If you ask me it was funnier, and less risk of anybody actually dying.
- rfmc 1y agoI mean, North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes are not that bad.
- bitwize 1y agoIt's also the name of a mathematical vector derivative operator (∇).
- rdlw 1y agoInteresting, I only knew it as the del until now
- weinzierl 1y agoOMG, how did you remember that nabla x nabla = labla(ce)?
- okanat 1y agoAnd I thought only ∂ is called "del".
- thatfunkymunki 11mo agoi thought it was the symbol for gradient? edit: ah, the name of the symbol for the gradient operator is nabla
- neilv 1y agoI used to study news, which meant reading a lot of it, so maybe I'm not representative, but I immediately noticed that. Whoever tastefully drew their logo in lowercase might've warned them not do it as all-caps elsewhere, if they were aware of the US brand issue. If I had to refer to this brand name in text, such as in specs, I wouldn't do all-caps like they have. (To US people, who may be familiar with the toxic brand from written news, US journalism style guides tend to put initialisms and acronyms in all-caps, unlike in parts of Europe.) I would capitalize only the first letter.
- henearkr 1y agoTo scientific-oriented minds it only refers to the mathematical operator. I personally did not know about, and don't care about, the "horrifying" thing you see in nabla. And I will keep being like that. If we were to start tracking all the things that are "a typo away from a bad thing", not a lot of words would be left.
- benzible 11mo agoI'm sure you have a list of things that you would not want to be "one typo away" from.
- henearkr 11mo agoI don't. One typo away means it stays different.
- stephen_g 11mo agoThere are too many things to really worry about it too much. It's not really how language works anyway - like would you say "You don't want to call your organisation the Rare Books Association because 'rare' is only one letter away from 'rape'?" - clearly that's ridiculous.
- RiverCrochet 11mo ago"Rare Books A**ociation" already has 1 bad word right in it. No typo needed.
- numpad0 11mo agoNever heard of the term in question, is the word similar sounding to this by accident or is it tongue-in-cheek inspiration of some sort?
- stephen_g 11mo agoI've never heard of it either until reading these comments (I'm in Australia). Assuming the NA in that acronym means North America (?) and given that Denx and this new entity is German it's probably safe to assume that they haven't heard of it either.
- mcmoor 11mo agoI've seen other comment for the supposed unsavory thing but I've never heard about it, like, at all. Only know it as the mathematical operator. Also being used as card name for a children card game that's a bit infamously censor heavy so I think it's safe enough https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Mathmech_Nabla https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Mathmech_Nabla
- gspr 11mo agoDon't help those unsavory people hog a large part of our shared namespace.
- rmoriz 1y agoThe founder and owner, Wolfgang Denk, sadly passed away in 2022. https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2022-October/497955.html https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2022-October/497955.h...
- Deeg9rie9usi 1y agoWolfgang was a great man. Beside of U-Boot his company was also deeply involved in the Linux real-time extension Xenomai: https://lore.kernel.org/xenomai/87v8oa60bx.fsf@xenomai.org/ https://lore.kernel.org/xenomai/87v8oa60bx.fsf@xenomai.org/
- fukka42 1y agoU-Boot is pretty cool, I like how scriptable it is.
- joezydeco 1y agoU-boot is scriptable, but it's awkward. You put snippets of shell-like commands into environment variables and then connect them all together. It's the most powerful bootloader I've ever worked with, but writing new stuff and debugging it is tedious.
- rcxdude 11mo agoYeah, I strongly prefer barebox, if it's an option. You can just write shell scripts in it.
- mmmlinux 1y agoDoesn't most of the embedded Linux world run on u-boot? whats going to happen to that market now?
- akdev1l 1y agoSeems that it will be maintained by those using it (eg: companies and hobbyists alike) U-boot will not die from this
- jojomodding 1y agoThe answer is in the link you clicked: U-boot will be maintained as the open-source project it is, with some engineers previously working at Denx going to a specific different company with the express purpose of supporting U-boot.
- dominicq 1y agoSo long and denx for all the fish!
- bayindirh 1y agoAnd for the (yellow) submarines!
- zoobab 1y agoDamn i have a Denx parallel port JTAG adaptor Somewhere in my stock: http://www.zoobab.com/denx-bdm4jtag http://www.zoobab.com/denx-bdm4jtag Enjoy retirement!
- rogermeier 11mo agoWolfgang and me introduced the concept of the SPDX-License-Identifier, see https://spdx.dev/learn/handling-license-info/ https://spdx.dev/learn/handling-license-info/ also landed within the Kernel later, beside of many things we did for our stuff at Siemens, upstream first such as https://github.com/u-boot/u-boot/tree/master/board/siemens https://github.com/u-boot/u-boot/tree/master/board/siemens
- andrekandre 11mo ago> After 20 successful years in the embedded world, the DENX holders decided to wind-down operations and retire. ... As a result of this process, the company entered voluntarily liquidation. > Still looking for great support ? Former DENX’s engineers joined NABLA, a new company created to provide high level support .... You will find the same expertise and quality support you experienced in many years in DENX. first impression is, i wonder if they ever considered just selling the company to the employees and let them continue it...?
- trenchpilgrim 11mo agoLooks like the founder passed away a few years ago, perhaps this was easier for his inheritors.