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This is because many of the "native" windows components like the start menu are written in react native.

jadamson 11mo ago
Dear God, I hate the way the Windows 11 Start Menu takes slightly too long to open - long enough that I often accidentally close it again. You can actually watch CPU usage increase if you toggle it.
- greggsy 11mo ago
  Never use the start menu anymore with CmdPal in PowerToys. macOS spoiled me.
- noir_lord 11mo ago
  > You can actually watch CPU usage increase if you toggle it. Not any more, I kept windows 11 around for gaming but I binned the partition, how they managed to make a 7950X3D/7900XTX feel "clunky" is astounding given that I live in KDE which has a reputation for been a "heavy" DE and yet it it feels instantaneously fast in every dimension compared to windows 11.
  - simoncion 11mo ago
    KDE is a "heavy" DE! Compare its startup time to -say- Windowmaker. Full disclosure: I use KDE almost exclusively.
pbhjpbhj 11mo ago
I thought they just rewrote Start in Rust?
ahoka 11mo ago
Anyone remembers Active Desktop?
- habibur 11mo ago
  Windows still has Active Desktop, doesn't it?
  - pjc50 11mo ago
    I believe that went out with Internet Explorer. You certainly can't set your desktop to a web page any more.
- denverllc 11mo ago
  They main purpose of active desktop was to claim IE was an inextricable part of windows
sunaookami 11mo ago
This is wrong. The "recommended" section of the start menu is written with React Native but compiled to native XAML and not running web technologies. See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125217
- modo_mario 11mo ago
  Wait.....why develop that small part so differently than the rest?
  - wongarsu 11mo ago
    Classic case of shipping the org chart (in case anyone needs a reminder of Microsoft's org chart: https://www.globalnerdy.com/2011/07/03/org-charts-of-the-big-tech-companies-plus-an-enhancement/ https://www.globalnerdy.com/2011/07/03/org-charts-of-the-big...)
    - simoncion 11mo ago
      > in case anyone needs a reminder of Microsoft's org chart: ... To be a little glib: As someone who has worked for a few Big Software Companies, I guarantee that Microsoft's org chart has changed significantly at least once in the last fourteen years. Re-organizations aren't referred to as "shuffling the deck chairs [on the Titanic]" by the rank and file for no reason, yanno?
      - wongarsu 11mo ago
        My impression from the outside is that the biggest change is that there are now a lot more and smaller circles pointing guns at each other But maybe that impression is wrong and they now cooperate better. After all since some Windows 10 update the Windows Explorer can even create files and folders starting with a dot (which from a kernel, fs and cmd perspective was always valid)
        simoncion 11mo ago

Dear God, I hate the way the Windows 11 Start Menu takes slightly too long to open - long enough that I often accidentally close it again. You can actually watch CPU usage increase if you toggle it.

greggsy 11mo ago
Never use the start menu anymore with CmdPal in PowerToys. macOS spoiled me.
noir_lord 11mo ago
> You can actually watch CPU usage increase if you toggle it. Not any more, I kept windows 11 around for gaming but I binned the partition, how they managed to make a 7950X3D/7900XTX feel "clunky" is astounding given that I live in KDE which has a reputation for been a "heavy" DE and yet it it feels instantaneously fast in every dimension compared to windows 11.
- simoncion 11mo ago
  KDE is a "heavy" DE! Compare its startup time to -say- Windowmaker. Full disclosure: I use KDE almost exclusively.

pbhjpbhj 11mo ago

I thought they just rewrote Start in Rust?

ahoka 11mo ago

Anyone remembers Active Desktop?

habibur 11mo ago
Windows still has Active Desktop, doesn't it?
- pjc50 11mo ago
  I believe that went out with Internet Explorer. You certainly can't set your desktop to a web page any more.
denverllc 11mo ago
They main purpose of active desktop was to claim IE was an inextricable part of windows

sunaookami 11mo ago

This is wrong. The "recommended" section of the start menu is written with React Native but compiled to native XAML and not running web technologies. See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125217

modo_mario 11mo ago
Wait.....why develop that small part so differently than the rest?
- wongarsu 11mo ago
  Classic case of shipping the org chart (in case anyone needs a reminder of Microsoft's org chart: https://www.globalnerdy.com/2011/07/03/org-charts-of-the-big-tech-companies-plus-an-enhancement/ https://www.globalnerdy.com/2011/07/03/org-charts-of-the-big...)
  - simoncion 11mo ago
    > in case anyone needs a reminder of Microsoft's org chart: ... To be a little glib: As someone who has worked for a few Big Software Companies, I guarantee that Microsoft's org chart has changed significantly at least once in the last fourteen years. Re-organizations aren't referred to as "shuffling the deck chairs [on the Titanic]" by the rank and file for no reason, yanno?
    - wongarsu 11mo ago
      My impression from the outside is that the biggest change is that there are now a lot more and smaller circles pointing guns at each other But maybe that impression is wrong and they now cooperate better. After all since some Windows 10 update the Windows Explorer can even create files and folders starting with a dot (which from a kernel, fs and cmd perspective was always valid)
      - simoncion 11mo ago