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Oh hell yes. There was a leak of specs (via a benchmarking database) of an upcoming machine from Valve and I had my fingers crossed that it was a mini PC and no
by phantasmish 11mo ago
Oh hell yes. There was a leak of specs (via a benchmarking database) of an upcoming machine from Valve and I had my fingers crossed that it was a mini PC and not some VR thingy, saw this thread, and was sad for a moment before I spotted this post.
6x as powerful as the Steam deck (that I use plugged in anyway 98% of the time—I’d have bought a Steam Deck 2, but I’m glad I get the option to put money toward more performance instead of battery and screen that I don’t use) is great. Not a lot of games I want to play won’t run well at least at 1080p with specs like that.
- torginus 11mo agoSnapdragon doesn't really have a good history of supporting proper desktop games. Windows for ARM had kinda bad compatibility. It seems the aim is to have most games just be playable like with the Deck. Fingers crossed but I have some reservations.
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- phantasmish 11mo agoTheir new mini PC isn’t ARM (the Frame is, though), it’s AMD hardware like the Steam Deck. Appears to be x86, should play basically anything in my library at 1080p or higher as long as it works under SteamOS.
- torginus 11mo agoI know but the Frame supports regular x86 games as well in standalone mode.
- klohto 11mo agoyou run FEX, not direct ARM games
- torginus 11mo agoThat doesn't magically fix the Qualcomm GPU or the drivers.
- klohto 11mo agoI don’t think you will be on latest nightly. LTS are good and stable, if FEX is targeting those specs I don’t see a stability issue.
- scheeseman486 11mo agoThe GPU is fine and the drivers Valve are using, if their past hardware is any indication, will be open source. Doesn't magically fix them, but it does allow for Valve to fix them.
- surajrmal 11mo agoIf valve can convince Qualcomm to open source their GPU drivers I will eat a banana peel. They would need to write a new one from scratch (or reuse freedreno, but those are going to have performance issues).
- scheeseman486 11mo agoNot the first time Valve funded the development of FOSS drivers. They've already done so with Intel's Vulkan stack on Linux, AMD (AMDGPU) and Nvidia (NVK). SteamOS's core functionality leans heavily on Mesa and there's been a lot of commits for the Adreno 750 lately, mostly coming from Linaro.
- surajrmal 11mo agoFair enough. The problem is usually in terms of getting enough documentation and help to do this in a cost effective manner. If they manage to pull it off, I will start to second guess every phone OEM who seems to not go down this road.
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- andoando 11mo agoWhat is the draw of the Steam machine though? They say the price is comparable to similarly specced PC. So why not just buy/build any mini PC? There's plenty of options for that
- spopejoy 11mo agoPC gaming on the couch at last
- baggachipz 11mo agoA good while back I abandoned PC gaming because I was sick of driver issues, compatibility, and always having to update hardware to play the next game. Instead, I embraced consoles and haven't considered PC gaming since then. This, however, has me reconsidering that. I want it to "just work". When I want to play games, I don't want to deal with all of that other crap. I'm old, ain't nobody got time for that.
- theshackleford 11mo agoIt's wild how experiences can vary so wildly. That's the nature of PC's though I suppose that you are trying to avoid. I've had no driver or compatibility issues in longer than I can remember. Maybe Vista? I also rarely upgrade because playing at console level settings means I can easily get effectively the same lifetime out of my hardware. Though I do tend to upgrade a little earlier than console users still leaning a bit more towards the enthusiast side.
- andoando 11mo agoI mean I just don't see the difference between this and getting any PC and slapping SteamOS on it.