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https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamframe https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamframe [1] > Steam Frame is a PC, and runs SteamOS powered by a Snapdrag
by teroshan 11mo ago
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamframe https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamframe [1]
> Steam Frame is a PC, and runs SteamOS powered by a Snapdragon® 8 Series Processor. With 16GB of RAM, Steam Frame supports stand-alone play on a growing number of both VR and non-VR games without needing to stream from your PC.
So Steam + Proton works on aarch64? Is this something already available/supported, or is this an announcement?
[1] Steam Frame, which is the VR Headset releasing alongside the Steam Machine. Dedicated discussion here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45903325 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45903325
- sylens 11mo agoI think this is a form of an announcement but without many details. I'm curious to see how well it works
- jsheard 11mo agoValve has been quietly working on integrating the FEX x86 emulator into Proton for a while, and it's official now. https://www.tomshardware.com/peripherals/gaming-headsets/hands-on-with-valves-new-steam-frame-headset-arm-powered-mixed-mode-device-uses-new-fex-translation-layer-for-traditional-x86-games https://www.tomshardware.com/peripherals/gaming-headsets/han...
- teroshan 11mo agoValve deciding to support Arm-based gaming is HUGE news
- Yokolos 11mo agohttps://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/1493 https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/1493 This is fun, just found this issue from 2018 which was closed with this comment: > Hello @setsunati, this is not a realistic objective for Proton. As @rkfg, mentions wine for ARM does not magically make x86 based games work on ARM cpus. > Even if Steam were brought to ARM, and an x86 emulation layer was run underneath wine, the amount of games that could run fast and without hitting video driver quirks is small enough not to entertain this idea any time in the near future. It's mentioned in this issue https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/8136 https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/8136 which was closed Oct 2024 with this comment by kisak-valve: > Hello @Theleafir1, similar to #1493, this is not a realistic objective for Proton any time in the near future.
- baq 11mo agoFinally some clarification on what valve time actually is.
- mosselman 11mo agoWhat do you mean? Could you share your insight?
- wetpaws 11mo ago[dead]
- yvdriess 11mo agohttps://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
- dmonitor 11mo agoit's running joke that Valve will announce something as "coming soon" only to release months or years later https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
- AlienRobot 11mo agoThis kind of thing is what makes me trust Valve.
- firen777 11mo ago>"Coming Soon" (January 10, 2017) | December 20, 2024 | 7th Issue of Team Fortress Comics: The Days Have Worn Away Out of all the IPs Valve owns, somehow it's TF2 that got a story conclusion and it couldn't have been more perfect.
- amarant 11mo agoDid someone say half life 3?
- radialstub 11mo agoI believe this work is a continuation of the work the asahi linux people did to get games working on M-series macs. It seems Alyssa Rosenzweig works at valve as a contractor. Super cool work. Some seriously talented folks.
- LeonM 11mo agoAlyssa works for Intel now, so I doubt she'll be doing much contract work for Valve anymore...
- embedding-shape 11mo agoWhat a jump, I'd be curious to hear first why anyone would prefer Intel above pretty much anything else, but also secondly how the actual experience difference between the two after working at both, must be a very strong contrast between them.
- KerrAvon 11mo agousually a combination of money/benefits/locale is the answer to this question
- bigyabai 11mo agoWould it shock you to hear that many/most engineers don't pick an employer based on brand reputation?
- collingreen 11mo agoWould it shock you to hear that famous engineers with their own personal brand power have different opportunities and motivations than many/most engineers?
- vasco 11mo agoTheir point is even made stronger by your comment. Engineers of this type don't experience megacorps like regular engineers. They usually have a non-standard setup and more leeway and less bureaucracy overhead. Which means brand isn't the biggest thing, the specific projects and end user impact are.
- pdpi 11mo agoHave to wonder if there is a world where Proton comes to macOS.
- jsheard 11mo agoPretty unlikely as long as Apple refuses to support Vulkan. Even if they did, the whole Proton project is about Valve controlling their own destiny rather than being chained to someone else's platform, and Apple is just another Microsoft in that regard.
- pdpi 11mo agoTrue, forgot about that. That said, Apple does have D3DMetal. A man can dream that they eventually opensource that.
- GeekyBear 11mo ago> Pretty unlikely as long as Apple refuses to support Vulkan. You would only translate into Vulcan when running on an OS that uses Vulcan as the native graphics API. On a Mac, Wine translates directly into Metal.
- jsheard 11mo agoValve could implement a separate Metal backend for Proton, what I'm saying is they probably wouldn't want to spend their resources on that.
- samtheprogram 11mo agoThat's because D3DMetal already exists. Games run like they did on Proton ~4-5 years ago, some games better. I mostly no longer boot my Linux machine anymore to play games. The anticheat story is probably not as good but I don't play any AAA games, so I wouldn't know.
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- derefr 11mo agoThere was also a parallel effort to this end, targeting Android rather than plain Linux, resulting in an app called https://winlator.org/ https://winlator.org/ — which also works quite well at this point. (See e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP0yUqcyY18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP0yUqcyY18)
- pippy360 11mo agoThat was a very higher quality YT video. It's clearly written by someone who knows when they're talking about even though it's mostly non-technical
- throawayonthe 11mo agonowadays FEX works better than box86 in my experience, on 'desktop' linux at least
- Bombthecat 11mo agoDamn valve is cooking.
- jasonjmcghee 11mo agoWow this looks great. Foveated streaming, great resolution, wireless, 144hz, looks much more comfortable... As much as I want this, I feel like it'll end up being a really cool thing that just sits on the shelf. Edit: foveated streaming, not rendering
- erxam 11mo agoMaybe they've cracked the code with the dongle? Usually, you either have to invest both time and money into setting up the perfect streaming network, deal with annoying cables or resign yourself to inferior on-device game versions. The ergonomics matter more than you'd think. But if it's a very easy plug-n-play type deal to run SteamVR games (and on Linux!), that's a huge ergonomic improvement. Don't have to think too much about whether everything is running correctly or what-have-you.
- mavamaarten 11mo agoIf it's just plug and play and works well, it'd be brilliant. I have experimented a lot with a couple or wifi dongles I had lying around and setting up a hotspot, but honestly I could never get it to work well. Streaming VR content is just so sensitive. I have a good cabled network but even a simple switch introduced noticeable lag spikes. In the end I have a separate router that I just connect straight to my PC, and then I share my wifi connection through my PC to that network. A whole silly setup just to minimize latency and packet loss. If that could be replaced with a simple USB dongle I'd be amazed.
- Hikikomori 11mo agoBought another AP to use on 6ghz band, still alone there, works perfectly for my oculus. If they can do it with a dongle that would make it much simpler for regular people.
- hnuser123456 11mo agoI recommend preparing a drink or two and loading up VRchat and joining one of the rave club groups. Check out the metaverse zuck wishes he ran.
- delusional 11mo agoI'm more confused that it's running SteamOS which is supposedly Arch based, but arch doesn't officially support ARM. You have to use the ArchLinuxARM distro for that, which is less maintained. They got to be doing something off label for that.
- uncletaco 11mo agoEven if they are, Valve has a long track record of contributing back to open source projects.
- 0x1ch 11mo agoProton was a community led effort years back. The guy who started that is now an employee at Valve (IIRC) working on Proton, but also getting paid :)
- 0x457 11mo ago> arch doesn't officially support ARM Doesn't really mean much to Valve as SteamOS vendor: - linux kernel supports aarch64 just fine - user space supports aarach64 just as fine - Valve provides runtime for games (be it via proton or native linux), so providing aarch64 builds is up to them anyway The main point of ArchLinuxARM is providing compatible binaries, which isn't something hard to do in-house.
- whatevaa 11mo agoArch doesn't support ARM at all. Arm is somebody else hobby project.
- tiberious726 11mo agoYou mean valve's?
- wafflemaker 11mo agoisn't Steam Deck arm based?
- stetrain 11mo agoJust to clarify that's for the Steam Frame VR Headset. The Steam Machine PC uses an AMD Zen 4 x86 CPU.
- SpaceNoodled 11mo agoThe headset isn't natively running games, right?
- smileybarry 11mo agoIt can, but it'll be a small subset of stuff. You'll probably be able to just hit install + play on most things, but it'll have a "Steam Frame Verified" program like the Steam Deck's.
- stetrain 11mo agoYes, in the same way that a Quest 3 can run BeatSaber and other similar calibre games. For more demanding games it's designed to stream from a PC.
- jadbox 11mo agoWhen's the preorders happening?
- nialv7 11mo ago> So Steam + Proton works on aarch64? CodeWeavers just announced[0] CrossOver on ARM a couple of days ago, so yes. [0]: https://www.codeweavers.com/blog/mjohnson/2025/11/6/twist-our-arm64-heres-the-latest-crossover-preview https://www.codeweavers.com/blog/mjohnson/2025/11/6/twist-ou...
- sho_hn 11mo agoMainly check out the Valve-sponsored FEX project.
- ljm 11mo agoIt also looks like they've launched a new version of the Steam Controller.