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Glad to hear it’s faster now! YouTube barely works in a full-on browser these days, props to the team that keeps it accessible via a Python script!
by WD-42 11mo ago
Glad to hear it’s faster now!
YouTube barely works in a full-on browser these days, props to the team that keeps it accessible via a Python script!
- gilfoy 11mo agoI use YouTube daily in safari and edge, this is complete hyperbole.
- phplovesong 11mo agoYoutube is pretty unusable, as they throttle videos, and links sometimes dont work. It has gone downhill fast in recent years.
- ConceptJunkie 11mo agoI have no problems with YouTube at all. Perhaps it's because I pay for Premium (primarily to get YouTube music). Regardless, Google services getting worse over time is becoming a law rather than a tendency.
- cons0le 11mo agoI don't get the value ad of youtube music. Everything's already on youtube and they let you make playlists, and they have playlists of the top charts already. What else does youtube music get you? I can play on my phone with the screen off with yt vanced ( and I would never pay just for that feature, because I remember when it was free and they took it away )
- weaksauce 11mo ago> I can play on my phone with the screen off with yt vanced there's a lot of iphone/ipad users out there. > Everything's already on youtube and they let you make playlists, and they have playlists of the top charts already I don't use it but ui probably. ads maybe. plenty of people have money and don't want the inconvenience of trying to get around it.
- j45 11mo agoYou can play youtube videos (ad free) as music on any chromecast device including chromecast homes with the microphone turned off. Also, when playing music you won't be hit with ads. Your setup can move with you wherever you are, home, travel, in the vehicle. This can be helpful for engaging the audible sensors of small aliens sans screen. Youtube without ads on every device, anywhere, is quite a different experience.
- charcircuit 11mo agoNo ads on music, no ads on shorts (shorts are allowed to freely use copyrighted music unlike long form video), background playback, downloading music to your device. These all are big value ads for me.
- jack_pp 11mo agoYou get music discovery, radios, go to album, go to artist
- raydev 11mo agoFor me, it just comes with Premium, and I buy Premium to support the creators I watch often without having to watch ads. I want them to get paid.
- anonym29 11mo agoQuick, everyone start sending unwanted junk mail to this guy's house, he'll pay you to stop!
- dyselon 11mo agoHeaven forbid someone pay for an online service they use and enjoy.
- a96 11mo agoI do, but not for services that treat their users (and content creators!) like YT does.
- tripzilch 11mo agoTheir point is that it's not "paying for" but it's "paying off".
- dyselon 11mo agoSure, it's just a poor analogy. YouTube doesn't show up at your door unprompted as junk mail does. You go there intentionally for the purpose of watching a video. You can pay for that video with your time or your money. No one is being "paid off" in that scenario.
- anonym29 11mo agoThird option: I don't pay for it, I don't load the ads, and the trillion dollar company figures out a way to live with the economic consequences of their own decisions. The company voluntarily decided to serve the content at no charge to consumers, at the company's own expense, to the internet at large, with no reasonable expectation of any obligations from the people they're freely offering the content to. They're welcome to stop freely offering it the moment they decide they don't want to be the world's most popular video sharing and viewing platform anymore. Until then, neither I nor anyone else has any obligation to pay them, run any part of their front-end code (includig the ad-serving parts), or view any of their ads.
- supportengineer 11mo agoNo one ever got a promotion for maintaining software
- shermantanktop 11mo agoNo idea what you are talking about. I don’t have premium and use in both logged in and logged out.
- nancyminusone 11mo agoIf I'm logged out, I get "Sign in to confirm you're not a bot" about once a week from both home and the office.
- ranger_danger 11mo agoNo issues here for me with uBO, logged in or not, no premium
- kiwijamo 11mo agoThey limit the buffer to around 30secs or so like all other streaming services but otherwise 95%+ of the time it just plays smoothing with no buffering at all from start to end. YouTube is generally in the top 3 of the video streaming services I use. Even on 4G wireless (which I occassionally use) it works well enough which is impressive as other video steaming services struggle (with the sole exception of Netflix which is probably the only one better than YouTube).
- komali2 11mo agoI run it in firefox. Today a video kept freezing when I scrolled down to load the comments. Sometimes I bizarrely have to scroll super far down to get past recommended videos to see the comments, which sometimes crashes the tab. On mobile (Firefox) I frequently have issues with videos freezing or videos crashing when I try to replay a section. I freely admit to holding google software to a higher standard than e.g. random FOSS tools I use or saas from startups, however I also believe google has the talent, time, and money to where their software should basically be the best on Earth, and it's kinda shocking how often it's not and in what ways it's not. And YouTube is how old now? The fact alone that I still can't toggle off Google maps "we found a faster route, tap ok to not change the route you change" thing...
- zimpenfish 11mo agoAs a counter-anecdote, I use YouTube daily in Safari and it will not infrequently hang for tens of seconds when trying to load a video, occasionally play the sound without the video, reasonably frequently put the video over most of the page with no way to get to the controls, etc. (This may be because I have a whole swathe of adblockers, etc., plus I do a lot of `yt-dlp`ing from the same IP which may have me on a naughty list.)
- sebra 11mo agoI have the same issue. I think it's because I'm adblocking because if I try in chrome with no adblocker it loads the ads instantly. But eh either 5s of black screen or 60s of ads. I tried watching a 15 min yt video without adblock and it had 5 ad breaks with some unskippable ads.
- zimpenfish 11mo ago> I tried watching a 15 min yt video without adblock and it had 5 ad breaks with some unskippable ads. Yeah - I watch most of my YouTubes on the Apple TV and the ads are a pestilence. Sometimes it'll be 50s pre-roll[1] with multiple 30-50s breaks for a 10m videos. Luckily there exist[0] many fine technologies that let you view them without ads via something like Infuse with a DLNA server if you're that way inclined. [0] Currently. YT-DLP is fighting the good fight but I don't know how much longer they'll be able to keep in front. But then I'll just stop watching YouTube, really, because it's a horror show without adblock/circumventions. [1] The video doesn't appear in your history until the pre-roll has finished which means if you can't be arsed sitting through a 50s pre-roll just that second and - at least on the Apple TV - you've not clicked on the video from your homepage / subscriptions, good luck trying to find it again unless you remember the name + channel etc. (which it also won't properly show you until after the pre-roll!)[2] [2] I hate YouTube corporate.
- embedding-shape 11mo agoThat's a bit like complaining no cars have trouble because your Fiat doesn't have a problem. There are more browser engines out there than the ones you use, some in direct competition with Google themselves, maybe people using those engines are experiencing issues? Jumping to calling out "hyperbole!" sounds like hyperbole itself, since you don't actually have broad experience enough to say if that's true or not. FWIW, when I use Chromium (logged out/in) on Linux, everything works fine. If I use Firefox (logged in), it works worse. If I change the user-agent to Chromium in Firefox, I get faster buffering than when I use the default user-agent. Make of that what you will.
- darkwater 11mo ago> That's a bit like complaining no cars have trouble because your Fiat doesn't have a problem. No. Because even if it might be complicated, any website developer can test their website against a wide array of browsers, in a more or less automated way.
- embedding-shape 11mo agoSo you're expecting Google engineers and managers to prioritize adding broad cross-browser support, which adds more work for them, when the same company is also developing a competing browser? No, Firefox always been a second-rate guest at Google properties, and I'm not expecting it to change soon either. Why would they make it better when status quo means more Chrome users (in their mind)?
- badlibrarian 11mo agoIt's not 2003, the browser isn't the battle. I would expect YouTube managers to pressure the Chrome managers, because YouTube brings in billions of dollars every month. Likewise I would expect the trend to move in favor of YouTube, because the browser loses money at an increasing amount and YouTube generates money at an increasing amount. 70% of YouTube happens on Mobile, and in the US more people are now watching on TVs than phones. Source: Nielsen, the old-school company that has huge influence over ads. The site pops a literal warning saying "having problems? turn off your ad blocker" so I'm not sure where the mysteries lie here. They're testing on thousands of devices. And they're probably even testing against ad-blockers on your bro-browser. But they're certainly not motivated to optimize that experience, so you get what you get.
- ElijahLynn 11mo agoI use YouTube in a browser (Brave) almost everyday. Works great for me.
- qwerpy 11mo agoAlso on Brave and uBlock Origin. Mostly works great but every video now has a 3-4 second pause before starting. Pretty sure it's an anti-ad-blocker measure. Because I'm not watching their ads, I have no room to complain, just throwing out the data point that it's not a flawless experience anymore.
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- cons0le 11mo agoyou don't get the "are you still watching" popups? sometimes it buffers hard for me. They also removed dislikes and constantly push shitty clickbai AI thumbnails. They're also adding shitty ai translation, so if you like learning languages you're SOL. They also changed thier rec algo to be more "right wing\tech bro" leaning
- a96 11mo agoBrave is a series scam company.
- recursive 11mo agoI use YouTube on a daily basis. I haven't seen any of these problems.
- latexr 11mo agoAre you using Chrome or a Chromium browser? From experience and reports I’ve seen, that seems to make a huge difference.
- NooneAtAll3 11mo agodo you never encounter opening youtube video in a new tab only for video itself to load, while rest of the page doesn't?
- mikkupikku 11mo agoThat happens to me about 50% of the time. I assume it's google engineers not testing on Firefox.
- mavamaarten 11mo agoHah. I always assume it's them actively trying to make the experience worse on anything that is not Chrome.
- kiwijamo 11mo agoThat's never happened for me and I normally watch 5-10+ YouTube videos daily. Firefox.
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- tux1968 11mo agoDo you use Firefox on Linux, too? 4K Videos freeze so often for me, I don't even try watching them online, and always just download them with yt-dlp. It doesn't bother me enough to give Chrome a try, but maybe that'd make a difference.
- embedding-shape 11mo agoI do too use Firefox on Linux, 4K videos seems to work fine for me, but I've never been able to download higher than 1080p with yt-dlp, seems it's just not available without DRM as far as I can tell, so now I'm curious how exactly you've been downloading that?
- do_not_redeem 11mo agoyt-dlp + 4K works fine for me. The only special thing I remember doing is adding the impersonate feature (which it prompts you to do if it needs it). In other words, instead of `uv tool install yt-dlp`, run `uv tool install yt-dlp[default,curl-cffi]` The version in the Arch repos does not include the impersonate feature.
- xmcp123 11mo agoThis absolutely screams graphics card drivers problems to me.
- mschuster91 11mo ago> YouTube barely works in a full-on browser these days Agreed. Shorts about half the time don't display comments, the back button breaks in mysterious ways. And I use Chrome on both Intel and M macOS machines, so the best in class there is, but my Windows Chrome doesn't fare much better. And Adblock ain't at fault, I pay for premium. And that's just the technical side. The content side is even worse, comments sections are overrun by bots, not to mention the countless AI slop and content thieves, and for fucks sake I get that high class youtubers have a lot of effort to do to make videos, but why youtube doesn't step in and put clear regulations on sponsorship blocks is beyond me. Betterhelp, AG1, airup, NordVPN (and VPNs in general) should be outright banned. And the ads, for those who aren't paying for premium, are also just fucked up. Fake game ads (Kingshot who stole sound effects from the original indie Thronefall ...) galore. Google makes money here, they could go and actually hire a few people to vet ads and police the large youtubers with their sponsors.
- ranger_danger 11mo agoI use an extension that turns shorts back into regular videos, and another one that undoes the auto-dubbing when watching videos in a (different) language that I understand. With that, uBO and Sponsorblock, I never see any ads and have a great YT experience. (I don't have premium either)
- WorldPeas 11mo agoI'm n=1 using chromium but the only problem I have is the video losing focus when maximizing, meaning l/r/space don't work for video controls anymore, happened about when the liquid glass styled interface did
- nextlevelwizard 11mo agoHow are you using Youtube if you feel like it is "barely working"? I personally use Youtube almost exclusively for my entertainment. I am using Chromium on Raspberry Pi 5. I am running some flavor of uBlock, SponsorBlock, and some Shorts remover extension. It just works.