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Montreal public transit times used to be on some kind of like, 28-hour clock. Bus times after midnight would be labelled 27:30 or something. Suuuper confusing.
by cryptoz 11mo ago
Montreal public transit times used to be on some kind of like, 28-hour clock. Bus times after midnight would be labelled 27:30 or something. Suuuper confusing. It sounds so bizarre in fact, that I'm doubting my memory a bit, but I'm certain it was like that (say around 2006 or so).
- evertheylen 11mo agoThis is actually how GTFS (a standard format for public transit data) works: https://gtfs.org/documentation/schedule/reference/#stop_timestxt https://gtfs.org/documentation/schedule/reference/#stop_time... . Especially sleeper trains can get weird with 30+ hours. But I don't think it's wise to show that to the user
- 1718627440 11mo agoAnd it is the right thing to do as otherwise the question to which day a train belongs will be confusing. Just take it %24hours before intersecting trains. It is also how I personally record time spans. It makes it much easier as you do not need to deal with the case where the start is larger than the end time and you can only have a single date field.
- ChadNauseam 11mo agoI've seen this in Japan as well. A store that's open from, let's say, 8am to 1am will actually advertise itself as being open from 8am to 25pm. I guess the perception is that it's confusing to have a range where the smaller number comes before the bigger number.
- solidsnack9000 11mo agoI think it is more common for them to write 8:00 to 25:00 - omitting AM and PM.
- cubefox 11mo agoAM and PM is used in a few languages (mostly English) but many don't have it in their vocabulary at all, which probably includes Japanese.
- koito17 11mo agoIn the case of Japanese, there is 午前・午後 for 12-hour time. e.g. 午後９時に着く (arrive at 9 P.M.). If it's obvious from context, then only the hour is said. e.g. in「明日３時にね」, the flow of the conversation disambiguates the hour (it's also unlikely the speaker means 3 A.M.) There are also other ways to convey 12-hour time. e.g. 朝６時に起きる (wake up at 6 A.M. / wake up at 6 in the morning).
- folmar 11mo agoAnd even if they have, representations of noon and midnight differ.
- makeitdouble 11mo agoJapanese are used to it because TV shows etc. that have the same issue. If it airs at 2025-11-24 01:00, people will have an easier time to remember it's at a very late after the 23th's midnight, than a crazy early time on the 24th. Most TV or movie guide will show it as 25:00 on the 23th.
- SoftTalker 11mo agoMaybe at that point they should say "Closed 1am to 8am" instead.
- dotancohen 11mo agoI work with a factory that uses 32 hour timestamps, as some employees work a night shift.
- pasc1878 11mo agoUK buses and trains do this. I think the reason is for Day return tickets ie those where you can go out and come back on the same day. It allows the return to be after midnight which makes sense for example going to a theatre show or pub that shuts at 11pm